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Old 08-07-2007, 11:29 PM   #16
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Arenas came out of college as a Combo Guard i believe.

So did Wade. A lot of teams envisioned him more as a point than a 2.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:38 PM   #17
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I'd take A.I. over Gil at this point. Until Arenas improves his shot selection and fg% Iverson is better.

That's the biggest knock on iversons career, shot selection and fg%, I don't think arenas is too much worse than him.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:38 PM   #18
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So did Wade. A lot of teams envisioned him more as a point than a 2.
Wade and Iverson are probably the only players that play both position at an equal amount of time.

When J-Will and Payton were injured this year they had Wade filled in at the PG position.

He played PG when Shaq wasn't a Heat.

The starting lineup was this i believe

PG: Wade
SG: Eddie Jones
SF: Odom
PF: Brian Grant
C: forgot.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:43 PM   #19
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That's the biggest knock on iversons career, shot selection and fg%, I don't think arenas is too much worse than him.

I agree, but the past 2 years Iverson has shot in the mid 40s while Gil shot 41% from the field this past year. Although I gotta be fair as he did shoot 44% the year before.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:49 PM   #20
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Richie, if that is the criteria, wouldn't guys like Kobe and T-Mac (with the ball in the hands at the end of the game creating offense) be considered combo guards as well?

Wade isn't a point guard. Sure he might slide over every once in awhile, but many of today's shooting guards can do the same thing. Wade is undoubtably a 2 in my mind.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:00 AM   #21
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Richie, if that is the criteria, wouldn't guys like Kobe and T-Mac (with the ball in the hands at the end of the game creating offense) be considered combo guards as well?

Wade isn't a point guard. Sure he might slide over every once in awhile, but many of today's shooting guards can do the same thing. Wade is undoubtably a 2 in my mind.
Kobe and T-Mac aren't combo guards and there not even point forwards.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:02 AM   #22
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chauncey billups came out of college as a combo guard and played shooting guard for the Wolves.
Don't lie.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:04 AM   #23
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Don't lie.
he played some shooting guard for the T'Wolves then.

he had Terrell Brandon on his team.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:07 AM   #24
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1. Dwyane Wade
2. Allen Iverson
3. Gilbert Arenas
4. Ben Gordon
5. Brandon Roy
6. Monta Ellis
7. Leandro Barbosa
8. Jason Terry
9. Steve Francis
10. Devin Harris

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Old 08-08-2007, 12:07 AM   #25
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Don't lie.

I wouldn't be surprised. Billups was more of a scorer than a distributor coming out of college.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:12 AM   #26
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forgot about barbosa

at least fudge has done ONE decent thing now.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:46 AM   #27
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Just because Ben Gordon is undersized at the two doesn't mean he's a combo guard. There is nothing about his game that is point guard-ian.
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Old 08-08-2007, 12:49 AM   #28
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Just because Ben Gordon is undersized at the two doesn't mean he's a combo guard. There is nothing about his game that is point guard-ian.
Agreed, he's not much a playmaker and doesn't have a pass-first mentality. He's between the point guard and shooting guard size, and people think he's a combo. I don't think he is. He can play the point when needed, but doesn't play it like it should be played.
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:02 AM   #29
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Wade mostly plays PG in the later 4th quarter in the clutch so he can run the offense. Otherwise, he's playing SG for pretty much all of the game. Because he handles the rock a lot and is a guard, doesn't make him a point guard.
Seriously. These people arguing with me just don't know what a combo guard is really. Otherwise his definition for Wade, would have made Jordan a combo guard from 1985 - 1991. Because he played the same way. Wade is a play making SG. Nothing more, nothing less. The prime example of the best COMBO guard would be Allen Iverson. Otherwise why is no one calling Ray Allen or Kobe Bryant combo guards? Cause they have the skills to play PG as well, but thats not their mission objective. Their m.o. is still to score. A COMBO guard is a point guard in a PG's body, with a scorer's mentality and ability. A.I. (IMO) is the best of all-time at this position or definition.
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Seriously. These people arguing with me just don't know what a combo guard is really. Otherwise his definition for Wade, would have made Jordan a combo guard from 1985 - 1991. Because he played the same way. Wade is a play making SG. Nothing more, nothing less. The prime example of the best COMBO guard would be Allen Iverson. Otherwise why is no one calling Ray Allen or Kobe Bryant combo guards? Cause they have the skills to play PG as well, but thats not their mission objective. Their m.o. is still to score. A COMBO guard is a point guard in a PG's body, with a scorer's mentality and ability. A.I. (IMO) is the best of all-time at this position or definition.
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A tweener in basketball is a term, sometimes used derisively, for a player who is able to play two positions, but is not ideally suited to play either position exclusively, so he/she is said to be in between. This term is most commonly used only at the highest level of basketball competition, where players must combine extreme physical talent with specialised basketball abilities. A tweener has a set of skills that doesn't match the traditional position of his physical stature.

A less common use of the word 'tweener' is to describe a player who combines shooting guard and point guard attributes in a manner unsuitable to play either position exclusively. Such players are also known as "combination (or combo) guards".

Most commonly, shooting guards are called 'tweeners' when considered too short for NBA-level competition. Conversely, they are unable to play point guard successfully at the highest level of professional basketball due to a lack of the mental specialization and understanding of the game that this position requires. These players are often referred to as being "a shooting guard trapped in a point guard's body."
Regardless of whatever I might have said before, my final view on a combo guard is a guard who is capable of playing both positions well, and withint the height restrictions/recommendations. (6"0' - 6"4') That's it. They have to be able to score and be a playmaker. So finally, what is your straight up final thought and defintion of a combo guard, so I can understand you correctly; just your definition.
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