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Old 08-08-2007, 03:31 PM   #151
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You are wrong. You even quoted yourself. Classic. Go back a couple of pages to where I made my post and see what I meant when I said, "name 5".

Hint....I meant name 5 of today.
5 starting centers Shaq is better than NOW?
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Old 08-08-2007, 03:32 PM   #152
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I'll give you some stats.

Shaq - 4 rings, 1 ring as "Today's" Shaq, led a team with one All Star and a bunch of old dudes to a championship at...33? 34?

Yao - First round exit, even with T-Mac by his side.

Sure, Yao puts up 25/9, and?

Kids today overrate stats instead of understanding there are certain intangibles that make the difference...

Heat won because of D-Wade. Let's say D-Wade is not the FLASH type player
that makes incredible shots and the team depends on Shaq. OH! that actually did happen. A 6-8 center did a good job defending him. That's what you call impact on the game. I will say it again: FLASH won the title, Shaq didn't even had an impact when they won the title. Let's see what happens when today's yao faces today's shaq. Oh, that actually did happen. For the first time in Shaq's career he got outscored by the opposite center by more than 20 points. One on One match up, Yao 36 pts, 14 rebounds. Those are my stats. Hey i'm bored.
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Old 08-08-2007, 03:33 PM   #153
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If I was Kupcake, I'd pitch a trade to Larry Legend like this:

"Look Larry, I'm giving you two players with huge UPSIDE and POTENTIAL. How can you turn that down for JO?"



Maybe as a consolation, Kupcake will let Larry Legend punch a statue of Magic or something.

Larry will go like this:
"Sure.Jermaine O'Neal is yours as long as you take Troy Murphy"
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Heat won because of D-Wade. Let's say D-Wade is not the FLASH type player
that makes incredible shots and the team depends on Shaq. OH! that actually did happen. A 6-8 center did a good job defending him. That's what you call impact on the game. I will say it again: FLASH won the title, Shaq didn't even had an impact when they won the title. Let's see what happens when today's yao faces today's shaq. Oh, that actually did happen. For the first time in Shaq's career he got outscored by the opposite center by more than 20 points. One on One match up, Yao 36 pts, 14 rebounds. Those are my stats. Hey i'm bored.
Shaq doesnt need to score,he just needs to be in the court to make an impact,D Wade won the Title

Yao is not a superstar,if he was he'd put Houston on his back and take the blame when they lose
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5 starting centers Shaq is better than NOW?


I will break it down for you.....Shaq's name came up due to the fact that his impact in a game speak more volumes than "stats".

Even still, the year he got traded he averaged 21 points, 11 rebounds and 2 block a game in 67 games. let alone the impact of him clogging the lane and the ability to draw triple-teams and how team still play the "hack a Shaq" game.

That is far better than any Center of today. Then I said if you don't believe name 5. Does that help???
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IMPACT ON THE GAME: Duncan's numbers were not incredible during the season but yet he had a huge impact on the game. THAT'S BECAUSE HE HAD MULTIPLE 30 PT GAMES AND 12+ REBOUNDS. THAT'S WHAT I CALL IMPACT ON THE GAME. Something that Shaq wasn't capable of doing when his team needed him. If you say Shaq's impact on the game is the reason he's better, then I rather take the stats. YAO IS BETTER THAN SHAQ.
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I will break it down for you.....Shaq's name came up due to the fact that his impact in a game speak more volumes than "stats".

Even still, the year he got traded he averaged 21 points, 11 rebounds and 2 block a game in 67 games. let alone the impact of him clogging the lane and the ability to draw triple-teams and how team still play the "hack a Shaq" game.

That is far better than any Center of today. Then I said if you don't believe name 5. Does that help???
Shaq is still a Top 5 Center today but what he provides is not worth 20 million+
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I'm kind curious though....has there ever been a Number pick overall suck as hard as Kwame Brown and been in the League this long?
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IMPACT ON THE GAME: Duncan's numbers were not incredible during the season but yet he had a huge impact on the game. THAT'S BECAUSE HE HAD MULTIPLE 30 PT GAMES AND 12+ REBOUNDS. THAT'S WHAT I CALL IMPACT ON THE GAME. Something that Shaq wasn't capable of doing when his team needed him. If you say Shaq's impact on the game is the reason he's better, then I rather take the stats. YAO IS BETTER THAN SHAQ.
If Yao was this would've never happened:
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Shaq is still a Top 5 Center today but what he provides is not worth 20 million+

Really? So imtimidation, disrupting an offense, they ability to defend, commanding double and triple teams and being a reliable force on offense is not worth 20 mil a season??? OOOOH Weeeeeee!!!!! Classic again.
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I'm kind curious though....has there ever been a Number pick overall suck as hard as Kwame Brown and been in the League this long?
Kwame doesnt suck
Hes just an average player

Michael Olawakandi has been in the league longer and is much worse
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Really? So imtimidation, disrupting an offense, they ability to defend, commanding double and triple teams and being a reliable force on offense is not worth 20 mil a season??? OOOOH Weeeeeee!!!!! Classic again.
Its Not!

If this was 1995 i'd agree,but its 07 and thats too much for him

14 million is good
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Shaq doesnt need to score,he just needs to be in the court to make an impact,D Wade won the Title

Yao is not a superstar,if he was he'd put Houston on his back and take the blame when they lose

O.K taking the blame or not taking the blame makes you a superstar. What an IDIOT! Oh, so now Yao is not a superstar because he doesn't put his team on his back, and Shaq is a superstar and is better than him because he put his team on his back and GOT SWEPT BY A TEAM THAT WASN'T EVEN A TITLE CONTENDING TEAM. WHAT AN IDIOT!

I'm over here saying Yao is better than Shaq, stats prove it. And this guy is saying Shaq is better because of his impact on the game. He just needs to step on the court and he's better. WHAT AN IDIOT! Shaq must be your idol or something.
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O.K taking the blame or not taking the blame makes you a superstar. What an IDIOT! Oh, so now Yao is not a superstar because he doesn't put his team on his back, and Shaq is a superstar and is better than him because he put his team on his back and GOT SWEPT BY A TEAM THAT WASN'T EVEN A TITLE CONTENDING TEAM. WHAT AN IDIOT!

I'm over here saying Yao is better than Shaq, stats prove it. And this guy is saying Shaq is better because of his impact on the game. He just needs to step on the court and he's better. WHAT AN IDIOT! Shaq must be your idol or something.

Shaq impacts the Heat with his presence

When has Yao changed a game or took over a game ever in his career
http://youtube.com/watch?v=svsHlH-IvbY

You're 13 arent you?
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Its Not!

If this was 1995 i'd agree,but its 07 and thats too much for him

14 million is good
Can you name a team in any recent year less than 15 years, that won a title without an intimadating force?
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