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Old 08-10-2007, 04:14 PM   #16
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great thing about being on our own continent far away from the rest of the world is that it's not very likely we're going to be attacked by anyone. When was the last time an actual military strike took place on US soil? Pearl Harbor? Even that was not main land.
It's hard to feel like you're at war if you're far removed from the actual action.

Now if Canada or Mexico invaded us...then it'd feel like war...for about two days
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:16 PM   #17
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Why would there be any doubt we are not at war? Our government has spent over $600 BILLION on Afganistan and Iraq alone!






money we could have used to reach MARS!
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:16 PM   #18
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Now if Canada or Mexico invaded us

then you wouldnt be typing, youd be DEAD
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:59 PM   #19
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let the apeman clear things up...

yes...we are at war...what kinda question is that...where have you been man...we're in this little skirmish called the IRAQ WAR....yikes....

*war was not waged by saddam and iraq.....we were attacked on 9/11 by osama bin laden and al qaeda...

statistics:
US Troop Casualties - 3,651 (more than 9/11)
US Troops Wounded - 26,953
Iraqi civilians killed- 67, 265

*those are just the casualties in iraq....a country that never invaded us...saddam had nothing to do with 9/11...thats a fact....yes he was a evil dictator to his people, but that wasnt the initial reason for invasion, or "shock and aw'" as the media phrased it......and there are dictators all over the world, do we occupy those countries too?.....

*how 'bout this....lets perfect democracy in our own country before we "spread" it in others....

*the "war on terror" is an idiotic term...you cannot wage war on a tactic, which is what "terror" is...its not a country and its not a specific group of people...its a tactic..........in fact most of the terrorists come from Saudi Arabia...which happens to be an ally of ours (oil)

*here's the low down....
-we invaded iraq because of WMD's---no wmd's found
-then the reason was saddam was linked to 9/11---later the 9/11 commission found there was no connection
-the latest reason is, saddam was an evil dictator

*the fact is that there is a civil war going on in iraq right now and our troops are just "sitting ducks"....

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Yes, we're at war against evil.

Which is just... terrific. I have no idea how we can fail.

Honestly, how much of a halfwit can you be to think you can defeat the concept of evil? Bush clearly clearly ain't got much going on up in that head of his. "We're going to defeat terrorism." Terrorism has existed since the dawn of civilization. You are not going to defeat it with guns and bombs. This isn't the movies.
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:29 PM   #21
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Yes, we're at war against evil.

Which is just... terrific. I have no idea how we can fail.

Honestly, how much of a halfwit can you be to think you can defeat the concept of evil? Bush clearly clearly ain't got much going on up in that head of his. "We're going to defeat terrorism." Terrorism has existed since the dawn of civilization. You are not going to defeat it with guns and bombs. This isn't the movies.



Ronald Reagan called the Soviet Union the "Evil Empire". We were at war with communism (an ideology), and many of its supporters, for over 40 years.

The true failure in defeating evil is not trying. As Edmund Burke said, "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

He also said " Better be despised for too anxious apprehensions, than ruined by too confident security."

Yes, we are war with an ideology. Our war is not against Osama Bin Laden, al Qaeda, or even the Taliban. Saddam was an open supporter of terrorism for decades. If you don't believe me, do some research on the Abu Nidal Organization, Carlos the Jackal, PLFP, and countless others. These are organizations that have killed Americans (disco bombing in Germany, etc), who were given safe haven and finances by Saddam.

The war in particular is against state sponsors of terror. The WMDs were oversold. 3 of the 23 items listed on the Congressional AUMF were for WMDs. A majority were for his violations of cease fire conditions.

I invite you to read what our Congress actually voted on to go to war, and find how many items are no longer valid.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middl..._10-11-02.html

The original fear of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, of course, played a role in their votes — but only a role. In the 23 writs that authorized force to remove Saddam, senators at the time also cited Iraq's sanctuary and subsidies for terrorists. Then there were Saddam's attempts to assassinate a former United States president; his repression of, and use of weapons of mass destruction against, his own people; and his serial violations of both United Nations and Gulf War agreements. If paranoia over weapons of mass destruction later proved just that, these other more numerous reasons to remove Saddam remain unassailable.

Nevada's Sen. Reid summed up best the feeling of Democrats that there were plenty of reasons to remove Saddam Hussein in a post-9/11 climate. He reminded his Senate colleagues that Saddam's refusal to honor past agreements "constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict."
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:51 PM   #22
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Ronald Reagan called the Soviet Union the "Evil Empire". We were at war with communism (an ideology), and many of its supporters, for over 40 years.

The true failure in defeating evil is not trying. As Edmund Burke said, "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

He also said " Better be despised for too anxious apprehensions, than ruined by too confident security."

Yes, we are war with an ideology. Our war is not against Osama Bin Laden, al Qaeda, or even the Taliban. Saddam was an open supporter of terrorism for decades. If you don't believe me, do some research on the Abu Nidal Organization, Carlos the Jackal, PLFP, and countless others. These are organizations that have killed Americans (disco bombing in Germany, etc), who were given safe haven and finances by Saddam.

The war in particular is against state sponsors of terror. The WMDs were oversold. 3 of the 23 items listed on the Congressional AUMF were for WMDs. A majority were for his violations of cease fire conditions.

I invite you to read what our Congress actually voted on to go to war, and find how many items are no longer valid.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middl..._10-11-02.html

The original fear of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, of course, played a role in their votes — but only a role. In the 23 writs that authorized force to remove Saddam, senators at the time also cited Iraq's sanctuary and subsidies for terrorists. Then there were Saddam's attempts to assassinate a former United States president; his repression of, and use of weapons of mass destruction against, his own people; and his serial violations of both United Nations and Gulf War agreements. If paranoia over weapons of mass destruction later proved just that, these other more numerous reasons to remove Saddam remain unassailable.

Nevada's Sen. Reid summed up best the feeling of Democrats that there were plenty of reasons to remove Saddam Hussein in a post-9/11 climate. He reminded his Senate colleagues that Saddam's refusal to honor past agreements "constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict."
Yes, we went to war with Saddam because he IGNORED UN resolutions
but not near as often as we did. We had him contained. He was a pimple on the
ass of the ME. Now the factions that hate each other (he kept in check) are killing each other probably faster than Hussein ever did.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:33 PM   #23
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Yes, we went to war with Saddam because he IGNORED UN resolutions
but not near as often as we did. We had him contained. He was a pimple on the
ass of the ME. Now the factions that hate each other (he kept in check) are killing each other probably faster than Hussein ever did.


Just which UN Security Council resoultions have we violated?
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