Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

Go Back   Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops > InsideHoops Main Basketball Forums > NBA Forum

NBA Forum NBA Message Board - NBA Fan Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-12-2007, 01:47 AM   #31
Kblaze8855
Titles are overrated
 
Kblaze8855's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: I love me some me.
Posts: 12,981
Kblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki explored the meaning of life

Quote:
The problem isn't ____ . it's the rest of the ___ and his coach. period.

No matter what player and team is put in those blanks it has never....ever...been true. I dont care if its Hakeem in 88 giving the Sonics 50 and 25 in the playoffs. Jordan vs the Pistons when the rest of the team shot like 20%. Lebron in game 7 vs the Pistons when the rest of his team combined to make 4 field goals. KG putting up 24/19/5 and losing in the first round.

Sure as hell isnt the case when a guy who just won MVP puts up 19 on 38% shooting and goes 2-13 in the final game with 8 points vs a vastly inferior team.

No star has ever been as blame free for failure as some Dirk fans want to pretend he was.

Maybe no star is as soley responsible for losing as they tend to get treated either but at least thats consistient. Added to the fact it was the biggest upset ever and one of the worst performances an MVP ever had Dirks treatment isnt unusual.

Dirk has led a bunch of good teams and when how good he is comes up its always "Well he led ___ teams to ____" as if he did it alone then. They will mention 67 wins as if he wont them himself. Act like he went to the finals not the Mavs. But when they lose its the mavs. They win its dirk. They lose its the team. Some people do the same in opposite and sometimes his fans will point that out...even while they do the same thing.

Comes down to just accepting a players role in losing. Dirk on his own cant win or lose anything but when hes expected to carry the team and goes 2/13 in the biggest game of the season you know hes getting bashed for it. Especially if its right after a choke in the finals. His fans acting like this is a new concept.

Most of them have hated on KG for years for the same thing only he generally played better than Dirk vs GS and was ALWAYS the underdog in his first round losses. Then they turnaround and throw the rest of the team under the bus to pardon Dirk when he plays like ass and leads a 67 win team to a first round loss to a 41 win team that lost in 5 to the Jazz.
Kblaze8855 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2007, 02:34 AM   #32
FabCasablancas
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,803
FabCasablancas has decent reputation
Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki explored the meaning of life

Avery is a rookie coach completely in over his head.. facing one of the greatest coaches ever in Nellie.. and Avery is trying to use Dirk like Tim Duncan when Dirk is one of the most unconventional players to ever play the game.. yet Avery is trying to play him and the Mavs as conventionally as possible. If Avery had been Dirk's coach from the start of his career Dirk would have gone back to Germany probably in his first season.. by his 3rd season at the latest.

Not only is Avery completely inept but the Mavs team is built horribly.. they have no true spot up shooters to spread the floor.. the Mavs have the exact same problem the US dream team has.. too many scorers and no role playing shooters.. and the Mavs have no offensive centers and they aren't great defensively either.. so all you have to do as an opposing team is put 3 or 3 guys on Dirk and let the rest of the team shooot themselves out of the playoffs.

As for Dirk not positng up enough.. of course he isn't going to post up.. because it wasn't working.. when the opposing team tripled Dirk the ball would be passed to the perimeter and the players would constantly miss their jumpers.. so evenetually they just gave up on posting Dirk and Avery would tell his other players to go one on one..

But if you swapped coaches.. Nellie coaching the Mavs and Avery coaching the Warriors the Nellie would have won with this roster too..

Dirk might be a choker.. who knows? We don't know.. because he has never had the opportunity to even play his game in the playoffs.. he never will until the team is built properly.

To build the Mavs properly you have to have a really solid big man playing next to him.. and perimeter spot up shooters that can play some defense.. until that happens we will never know how good Dirk can possibly be.. so you can't say he sucks or he's great.. every player needs a great coach and/or great teammates to be successful.. Even Jordan had to have Pippen and Phil.. and a team built very well around him.. sure he proved how great he was.. but all that stuff put him in a position to prove it.. did he have a chance to prove it on the Washignton Wizards?

Last edited by FabCasablancas : 08-12-2007 at 02:41 AM.
FabCasablancas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2007, 11:07 PM   #33
DatZNasty
NBA rookie of the year
 
DatZNasty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,845
DatZNasty is considered somewhat coolDatZNasty is considered somewhat coolDatZNasty is considered somewhat cool
Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki explored the meaning of life

Mavs fans still insisting Dirk was triple teamed in the post. Dude got his shot blocked off the glass viciously by Stephen Jackson 3 of the 4 times he attempted to post him up 1 on 1, and no double team came either time. Dirk is just soft, lacks aggression, and doesn't like contact which makes it easy to keep him from getting deep position because as soon as you begin to bump him, he'll stop there and thusly you get all those quasi-"postups" from 20ft. He'll make enough of them turning and shooting over the defender, but he'll miss plenty too, especially in the playoffs.

And to the Dirk sucked because his teammates weren't better argument, his "2nd banana" had a better series than he did averaging 21/10
DatZNasty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2007, 11:25 PM   #34
IGOTGAME
NBA All-star
 
IGOTGAME's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 9,468
IGOTGAME has a terrific reputationIGOTGAME has a terrific reputationIGOTGAME has a terrific reputationIGOTGAME has a terrific reputationIGOTGAME has a terrific reputationIGOTGAME has a terrific reputation
Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki explored the meaning of life

Quote:
Originally Posted by DatZNasty
Mavs fans still insisting Dirk was triple teamed in the post. Dude got his shot blocked off the glass viciously by Stephen Jackson 3 of the 4 times he attempted to post him up 1 on 1, and no double team came either time. Dirk is just soft, lacks aggression, and doesn't like contact which makes it easy to keep him from getting deep position because as soon as you begin to bump him, he'll stop there and thusly you get all those quasi-"postups" from 20ft. He'll make enough of them turning and shooting over the defender, but he'll miss plenty too, especially in the playoffs.

And to the Dirk sucked because his teammates weren't better argument, his "2nd banana" had a better series than he did averaging 21/10

finally a Mavs fan who saw the same series as me...

Fab...Dirk plays power forward tell me the center you can put next to Dirk and still have good team around him...

All the centers with post game

Shaq
Yao
Curry

thats it...who are these magic players that Dirk needs around him..He has already had more talent them some stars dream of..

Last edited by IGOTGAME : 08-12-2007 at 11:28 PM.
IGOTGAME is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2007, 08:40 AM   #35
FabCasablancas
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,803
FabCasablancas has decent reputation
Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki explored the meaning of life

So the only centers int he league with better post games than Dirk are those three? haha Giv eme a break.. Diop and Damp are arguably the worst offensive centers in the league.. nother one of them can shoot or post up at all.. even one of those skills would be better for Dirk than the big bag of nothing they bring. evn Bradley was better for Dirk than these guys.. but the problem is you need someon really good next to Dirk .. a bigman.. but you don't nbeed any guards around Dirk at all.. if you do put guard around Dirk youa re just wasitng them.

Dirk doesn't have to have a center.. he just needs a big with a well rounded game.. could be Jermaine O'neal.. could be Elton Brand.. could be Chris Bosh.. Rasheed Wallace.. even Brad Miller would be the best big Dirk has ever played with.. and that's the problem.. Dirk has NEVER playeed with any kind of remotely decent legitimate big.. of any kind..

Dirk just needs ANY kind of depth in his frontcourt.. put Mehmet Okur and Andrei Kirilenko next to Dirk and you have a championship.. easy. Then You have Damp come off the Bench..

As for peoiple claiming Dirk wasn't triple teamed.. don't make me break out the Bill Russell article wher ehe said Dirk was being tripled constantly too. that was the one that shut TmacsOneGoodEye up when he claimed Dirk wasn't being tripled either.. he never claimed that again.. haha
FabCasablancas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2007, 08:41 AM   #36
FabCasablancas
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,803
FabCasablancas has decent reputation
Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki explored the meaning of life

quadrouple post

Last edited by FabCasablancas : 08-13-2007 at 08:43 AM.
FabCasablancas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2007, 08:41 AM   #37
FabCasablancas
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,803
FabCasablancas has decent reputation
Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki explored the meaning of life

Quadruple post

Last edited by FabCasablancas : 08-13-2007 at 08:44 AM.
FabCasablancas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2007, 08:41 AM   #38
FabCasablancas
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,803
FabCasablancas has decent reputation
Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki explored the meaning of life

Quadruple post

Last edited by FabCasablancas : 08-13-2007 at 08:44 AM.
FabCasablancas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2007, 12:17 PM   #39
raid09
Local High School Star
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,445
raid09 has decent reputation
Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki explored the meaning of life

Quote:
Originally Posted by FabCasablancas
So the only centers int he league with better post games than Dirk are those three? haha Giv eme a break.. Diop and Damp are arguably the worst offensive centers in the league.. nother one of them can shoot or post up at all.. even one of those skills would be better for Dirk than the big bag of nothing they bring. evn Bradley was better for Dirk than these guys.. but the problem is you need someon really good next to Dirk .. a bigman.. but you don't nbeed any guards around Dirk at all.. if you do put guard around Dirk youa re just wasitng them.

Dirk doesn't have to have a center.. he just needs a big with a well rounded game.. could be Jermaine O'neal.. could be Elton Brand.. could be Chris Bosh.. Rasheed Wallace.. even Brad Miller would be the best big Dirk has ever played with.. and that's the problem.. Dirk has NEVER playeed with any kind of remotely decent legitimate big.. of any kind..

Dirk just needs ANY kind of depth in his frontcourt.. put Mehmet Okur and Andrei Kirilenko next to Dirk and you have a championship.. easy. Then You have Damp come off the Bench..

As for peoiple claiming Dirk wasn't triple teamed.. don't make me break out the Bill Russell article wher ehe said Dirk was being tripled constantly too. that was the one that shut TmacsOneGoodEye up when he claimed Dirk wasn't being tripled either.. he never claimed that again.. haha

First of all: no ****ing ****. If Dirk had an all-star/superstar bigman like Brand or Bosh, the Mavs would be much better. You can say the same damn thing about: LeBron, Kobe, Paul, Sonics last year, and basically any other team whose franchise player is not a posting up/shot blocking big. That's not an argument for Dirk. Every player in the league wants an all-star compliment to their game, but that's not a luxury most players have. Every superstar gets ripped on for not fixing his weaknesses. Take LeBron for example. He's my favorite player. However, his outside game is subpar for a player of his status, and it hasn't shown much improvement over the last year. However, if I replied to all his critics saying, "well it's not his fault, he just needs a Ray Allen, or some other all-star sharpshooter [to cover his weaknesses]," would I come off as a resonable fan or a blatant homer? Yes, LeBron needs a decent shooter, but that is NOT an excuse for his lack of an outside shot. Dirk SHOULD be able to go in the post, and when he has been aggressive in the playoffs taking it down low, he has torn up the league. When he goes back to fading over 6'6" guards like against Miami and GS, he looks like a fool. He could be one of the deadliest offensive players in the game if he developed that post game, but instead he's off 'exploring the meaning of life.'

Next, Diop and Dampier, as much as you say they suck, cover one of Dirk's biggest flaws: defense. The fact is, Dirk is not great on defense, and needs a big who can make stops in the paint. You want to give Dirk an offensive center? Who's going to play the defense? Oh that's right, there will just be some clown like you complaining how Dirk needs a defensive center to compliment his game. Dirk relies on a center who plays both sides of the ball, and those are very hard to come by in this league, and a more often than not all-stars/superstars.

Last edited by raid09 : 08-13-2007 at 12:29 PM.
raid09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2007, 12:34 PM   #40
Optimus Prime
Swaggy
 
Optimus Prime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,975
Optimus Prime has an OK reputation so far
Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki explored the meaning of life

I think Dirk needs to explore the meaning of "Posting Up" instead...
Optimus Prime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2007, 12:48 PM   #41
Kblaze8855
Titles are overrated
 
Kblaze8855's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: I love me some me.
Posts: 12,981
Kblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableKblaze8855 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki explored the meaning of life

Quote:
Originally Posted by FabCasablancas
So the only centers int he league with better post games than Dirk are those three? haha Giv eme a break.. Diop and Damp are arguably the worst offensive centers in the league.. nother one of them can shoot or post up at all.. even one of those skills would be better for Dirk than the big bag of nothing they bring. evn Bradley was better for Dirk than these guys.. but the problem is you need someon really good next to Dirk .. a bigman.. but you don't nbeed any guards around Dirk at all.. if you do put guard around Dirk youa re just wasitng them.

Dirk doesn't have to have a center.. he just needs a big with a well rounded game.. could be Jermaine O'neal.. could be Elton Brand.. could be Chris Bosh.. Rasheed Wallace.. even Brad Miller would be the best big Dirk has ever played with.. and that's the problem.. Dirk has NEVER playeed with any kind of remotely decent legitimate big.. of any kind..

Dirk just needs ANY kind of depth in his frontcourt.. put Mehmet Okur and Andrei Kirilenko next to Dirk and you have a championship.. easy. Then You have Damp come off the Bench..

As for peoiple claiming Dirk wasn't triple teamed.. don't make me break out the Bill Russell article wher ehe said Dirk was being tripled constantly too. that was the one that shut TmacsOneGoodEye up when he claimed Dirk wasn't being tripled either.. he never claimed that again.. haha


Dirk wasnt tripled constantly and that is a simple verifiable fact. Not him and not any other player in the history of basketball that ive seen with the exception of Wilt in the NCAA title game. Every even reasonably unbiased fan knows it and the majority of Mavs fans probably do too. Nothing but a massive exaggeration of the defense to excuse poor play.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=YrKa8VMiRDo

One minute in. Total single coverage he drives to the FT line and shoots a pullup over the swingman defending him and another who was there before he drove into him.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F_vZBrV9T...elated&search=

2:17. Totally single covered(not even well covered) airball.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=wm8T7FSTmO8

Totally single covered in there.

That constant triple **** is just made up inthe minds of Dirk fans. Was he defended well? Most of the time yes. Was he getting some ungoly number of on the ball triples to keep him from possibly playing well? Hell no. He got one on one coverage a good bit. I doubt I happened to find the only 3-4 times in the series in the only 4 files I looked at(in one Dirk didnt shoot at all). The mere fact I could find any that easy is proof enough he wasnt always tripled or even doubled. He mostly got guarded like superstars usually do. One on one with some help D ready. Were there some doubles? Of course. Hes an offense based superstar. Kobe got doubled vs the Suns. bron got doubled vs the Pistons. Every play? Hell no. Basically nobody is. But superstars getting doubles isnt new or unusual. Its playoff basketball.


As for Damp and Diop not even being being "remotely decent legitimate bigs"....


Dampier was the 4th most productive center in the NBA before he came tothe Mavs behind Shaq, Amare, and Miller. He put up 12/12 for the year with 25 games of 15 or more points. In the last month with GS alone he had games of 26/18, 16/17, 18/13, 19 and 21, and 16 and 25. Wasnt even his best stretch. The month before he got(in consecutive games):

14 and 16
22 and 12
14 and 18
24 and 19
16 and 12

Here are some of his best games in january:

23 and 22
18 and 11
18 and 24
17 and 16
18 and 20
21 and 19

He averaged 13 and 13 after the all star break. And he is not entirely unskilled:

http://www.gswpete.com/highlights/53.../ed_jumper.avi

Just go here and search for the word "Damp"

http://www.gswpete.com/archive.html

He made a lot of impressive offensive and defensive plays before he got to Dallas.

When guys like Terry(already a 19/7 player in Atlanta) go to the Mavs and improve im told Dirk makes them better but when they go and get worse im told they were not good to begin with.


Dampier was never great but he was sure as hell remotely decent. Im not saying Dirk made him worse(thats as foolish as him making anyone better). Im just saying the guy has shown more in his career than hes done on the Mavs.

Last edited by Kblaze8855 : 08-13-2007 at 12:57 PM.
Kblaze8855 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2007, 12:50 PM   #42
Optimus Prime
Swaggy
 
Optimus Prime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,975
Optimus Prime has an OK reputation so far
Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki explored the meaning of life

Good post by Kblaze...wish I could watch the videos, but I'm at work.

Mavs' fans saying Dirk's supporting cast sucks? The majority of teams in the NBA would kill to have the Mavs' roster. It wasn't the Mavs' roster that couldn't post up Stephen Jackson or shot 38%...
Optimus Prime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2007, 02:24 PM   #43
SupermanOnSteroids
Local High School Star
 
SupermanOnSteroids's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,873
SupermanOnSteroids posts stuff that is definitely making some people angrySupermanOnSteroids posts stuff that is definitely making some people angrySupermanOnSteroids posts stuff that is definitely making some people angry
Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki explored the meaning of life

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForceOfNature
LOL, thats what I was going to say. If this were Jordan, he would be working on trying to improve his game right now to get back to the NBA Finals. I'm not trying to compare the two, but Dirk should live up to his MVP award.
the guy went backpacking to clear his head and get away from the public's eye. so what. i saw allen iverson at the club with his entourage in dallas the other night. he didn't win the ring either but he wasn't at his home working on his game. i don't see no one rippin on him. jordan was a known gambler. shaq comes back over weight each offseason. karl malone went and drove freakin trucks. you can go on and on.

i'm no dirk gro upie, but i do know that he's one of the hardest working players in the league. once the season is over he takes a few days off and goes and does his thing. then he gets back to working with his personal coach that has coached him since he was a teenager and the workouts have been reported to be long and grueling. after that he goes and plays for germany. then he comes back and starts the offseason in dallas. during the season he's always the last one to leave the practice. avery has to threaten him with fines to keep him from going to the court during an off day so that he could rest. and he gets frustrated when avery rests him towards the end of the season.

and still idiots come on here and try to rip on the guy for going back packing. just because the article was on him going backpacking, it doesn't mean that he doesn't do anything else.

Last edited by SupermanOnSteroids : 08-13-2007 at 02:28 PM.
SupermanOnSteroids is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2007, 02:48 PM   #44
TiMavericks21
Decent playground baller
 
TiMavericks21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 108
TiMavericks21 has an OK reputation so far
Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki explored the meaning of life

Quote:
Originally Posted by IGOTGAME
Kobe has no weaknesses in his skill set
MJ had no weaknesses in his skill set
Larry Bird had no weaknesses in his skill set (might not have been the greatest but it wasnt for lack of skill)
Steve Nash(not the greatest defender he skill work has no wholes in it)

Dirk is talented enough to pot up Stephen Jackson and monta Ellis on the low block he just doesnt, he rather go back into old habbits and start shooting more threes again..

Its not required to hit a 3, he cant be stopped closer to the basket so why drift and shoot threes...

Dirk can even post up Steve nash and Monta Ellis..That is a huge disadvantage to his team because that means the big next to Dirk has to make up those deficiencies..They have to be a really good defender, really good rebounder, and a low post presence...How many guys like that are in the league that would be able to play with Dirk to mask those defiencies...Maybe 5 tops...That why Dirk has to develop a post game because without it is to hard to bring in someone beside him to mask all his defiencies that a normal all nba 4 man would have

Michael Jordan, despite being the best player in NBA history, DID HAVE WEAKNESSES IN THIS SO CALLED SKILL SET YOU SPEAK OF. As a SHOOTING GUARD, you are typically supposed to be a great shooter, in all aspects. Yet in his long, illustrious career, Jordan only shot 33% from the 3-point line. Only 2 years (realistically 1 b/c the year he shot 50% he only played 17 games) in his career did he shoot 40% or better from 3. Sorry buddy, got ya there. No consistent 3-point shot is a weakness for a SG.

The main point is, Dirk does not have a low-post game. Duncan doesn't have a great outside game(besides the bank shot), neither does Wade. You don't hear people saying that these guys need to fix the weakness in their game to win titles. Players have their identities, they are who they are. Dirk is a phenom, a 7 foot player who plays like a 2. It shouldn't be implied that because he is 7 foot he has to be a low-post scorer, it simply isn't his game, he's not strong enough to bang down low and as far as I'm concerned, it's good that he doesn't because if you look at his statistics, HOW MANY GAMES HAS DIRK MISSED IN HIS CAREER? Not taking all those bumps that many PF's do has kept him pretty healthy.

It really is foolish to imply that the LEAGUE MVP has to transform into something he's not in order to win a title for the Mavericks. NO, my friend, I'm sorry, he does not. The Dallas Mavericks might need to go out and acquire ANOTHER PLAYER WHO HAS A LOW-POST GAME, but you are just plain wrong to imply that Dirk needs to be a low-post scorer for Dallas to win a title.
TiMavericks21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2007, 03:16 PM   #45
jackjohnson
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 244
jackjohnson has an OK reputation so far
Default Re: Dirk Nowitzki explored the meaning of life

Since DatZNasty likes to obsess about how Jackson blocked nowitzki, watch this interesting block "1 on 1" against dirk that he claims came on "single coverage"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bsap2JqyT...elated&search=


also note how every warriors basket comes against the awful perimeter defense of dallas.

Last edited by jackjohnson : 08-13-2007 at 03:19 PM.
jackjohnson is offline   Reply With Quote
This NBA Basketball News Website Sponsored by:
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:26 AM.




NBA Basketball Forum Key Links:
InsideHoops Home
NBA Rumors
Basketball Blog
NBA Daily Recaps
NBA Videos
Fantasy Basketball
NBA Mock Draft
NBA Free Agents
All-Star Weekend
---
High School Basketball
Streetball
---
InsideHoops Twitter
Search Our Site















Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Terms of Use/Service | Privacy Policy