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Old 08-17-2007, 04:36 PM   #1
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http://www.videosift.com/video/An-Amazing-Hand-Of-Poker

I have never seen anything like that...
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Old 08-17-2007, 05:03 PM   #2
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Wow...Its damn near impossible to lay down cowboys preflop, he must have had some read on the guy with the bullets.

And he hits his king on the flop...

Brutal game.
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I'm still waiting to see the hand Pocket Aces vs. Pocket Aces.

Can't believe he folded the Kings... It would only make sense that the

Queens win that hand.
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:11 PM   #4
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Default Re: Amazing poker hand, 5 pocket pairs

What's so amazing about it? I've seen something similar while watching the WSoP, and I saw something similar at a table at a casino.
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What a hand!

I once saw a straight flush beat a full house on the river.
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What's so amazing about it? I've seen something similar while watching the WSoP, and I saw something similar at a table at a casino.
a number of things...

1. five people got a pocket pair
2. the guy with KK made an amazing read and folded preflop
3. the guy with KK would have won
4. the guy with QQ hit one of two outs on the river to defeat AA

this is a situation that clearly does not happen on a regular basis
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What a hand!

I once saw a straight flush beat a full house on the river.

I think you're talking about when some girl got a FH with Qs while the other guy had a diamond straight flush. That was hilarious.
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Old 08-17-2007, 07:06 PM   #8
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I don't think I'd have the balls to lay down KK. Sure, he made a supreme lay-down...but you have to let the cards play themselves out if you get that hand. The only hand that has you beat in that situation is pocket rockets, and you can't be thinking just because some guy went all in after a raise means he has the goods to beat that hand.

Oh well. That's why I'm an amature and they are the so called pros.
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I don't think I'd have the balls to lay down KK. Sure, he made a supreme lay-down...but you have to let the cards play themselves out if you get that hand. The only hand that has you beat in that situation is pocket rockets, and you can't be thinking just because some guy went all in after a raise means he has the goods to beat that hand.

Oh well. That's why I'm an amature and they are the so called pros.

I don't buy into the whole "the pros know the in's and out's of poker" talk. 75-80% of poker is your luck and which cards are dealt to you. And most poker players don't even know what the hell they're doing. Some are way too aggressive, but their luck bails them out. And then you have these loser commentators say how masterful they are at the game. Give me a freaking break.
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I don't buy into the whole "the pros know the in's and out's of poker" talk. 75-80% of poker is your luck and which cards are dealt to you. And most poker players don't even know what the hell they're doing. Some are way too aggressive, but their luck bails them out. And then you have these loser commentators say how masterful they are at the game. Give me a freaking break.
if you played on a constant basis you would realize for yourself that there is a great deal of skill involved...

you are right, there is luck....but that guy laying down his KK was nothing short of genius...

a casino makes there entire profit from a 1% - 2% edge on the players...

if a professional has say a 5% advantage over the compition they should make out very well over a years time....

any pro will tell you that one tournament is luck, but how you fair in a years worth of tournaments really shows your skill...

if you were to look at how these pros average in the WSOP tournaments you would see that there are players that are constantly finishing in the money...are you telling me that all these pros are just getting lucky?

there is a reason that Phil Helmuth has won 10 braclets and sat down at numerous final tables...and that reason is the fact that he is really good at poker...
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Phil Ivery is Phil Ivey for a reason, he's a damn fine poker player that understands the game, and his opposition very well. Making reads, making the correct bet in the right situation, is poker.

For instance. If you have K3, and the flop comes 5,9,10...and the guy your in the pot with has middle pair, you can easily get him off that hand with a nice bet on the flop, or a call, and a continuation bet after the turn comes a blank for him. If you can read that he is weak...then it's all gravy. That's poker. Mind games. The little things.

The winning hand is pre-determined before anyone looks at their hole cards, that is a fact...but that winning hand wins at a lower rate than you would believe. Somewhere around 30% if I remember correctly. And that stems from the great reads, bets, etc that the pros are able to do.

Not everyone can be Phil Ivey. Or Gus Hanson. It's a lot more difficult to bet out with nothing, call with nothing, raise with nothing, etc when you are in big stakes.

So, yes...obviously if you land top pair with the nut flush draw on the flop it's pretty easy to play poker. But it's the players who read, and bet their opposition off the best hand that make it big.
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Phil Ivey used to be my favorite pro to watch, but he hasnt been making much noise in the past few years.

My favorite pro now is Daniel Negreneau, his reads are always on point, sometimes its downright scary.

Its not a coincidence you see the same faces at final tables, sure theyre lucky but more so, they know how to exploit their opponents weaknesses, meaning they know how to "change gears".
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I hate Sammy Farha, glad Moneymaker owned his ass in 03. Ask any dealer whos dealt to him, hes a cheapskate.
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if you played on a constant basis you would realize for yourself that there is a great deal of skill involved...

you are right, there is luck....but that guy laying down his KK was nothing short of genius...

a casino makes there entire profit from a 1% - 2% edge on the players...

if a professional has say a 5% advantage over the compition they should make out very well over a years time....

any pro will tell you that one tournament is luck, but how you fair in a years worth of tournaments really shows your skill...

if you were to look at how these pros average in the WSOP tournaments you would see that there are players that are constantly finishing in the money...are you telling me that all these pros are just getting lucky?

there is a reason that Phil Helmuth has won 10 braclets and sat down at numerous final tables...and that reason is the fact that he is really good at poker...

It wasn't genius. 9 times out of 10, he'd look like a fool giving away the 2 Kings. His mere reaction after the other two players showed their hands told me that this guy second guessed his hand and wanted to be credited for "being disciplined enough" to fold two Kings. It's simple psychology. Even I find myself with the inclination to fold two Queens or Kings in order to brag about it later on. He made a bad move but at the right time. Don't give me that "He knew that the other guy had Aces" crap. There's no way to tell, unless the other guy tells him.

Wrong. Do you know how many tournaments these pro poker players play in? That's why they're professionals. They play poker for the whole year. The # of times they finish in the money is a LOT less than the # of tournaments they play in.

The reason Phil Hellmuth has 10 bracelets is because he has been playing poker and winning tournaments since before poker became popular. Back then, the # of participants in the tournaments was MUCH less than the # today.

I'm not saying that poker doesn't take skill. Of course it does. That;s why hellmuth has 10 bracelets. But my point is that the the vast majority of it is luck. It's not only what cards you're dealt. You also have to match the board. And bluffing as well as reading other players takes luck, too. What if you're opponent has the Nuts? You're dead if you bluff then. And there's no such thing as reading the exact hand your opponent has. It's always an approximation. What if your approximation is slightly off? Is it because you lack skill? No, it's because you were a little unlucky.
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