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Old 08-19-2007, 12:23 AM   #31
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Thomas Jefferson?

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Old 08-19-2007, 04:50 AM   #32
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go donate to a damn charity, or some place that actually needs one.
why does a university need more funds? they get plenty already.

syracuse? look at their tuition.. they hell no dont need donations.

This isn't really much of a story. Yet, you need to be pompous, and criticize.
Universities receive enormous donations all the time. John Kluge, a Columbia alum, is donating $400 milto his former alma mater. Jefferson just wants to build a couple friggin' indoor BASKETBALL COURTS at UA. Get over it.
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Old 08-19-2007, 06:51 AM   #33
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I've already stated, your money, your choice.
If you wish to waste on smth like that, more power to you.
And whats more important vs efficient?
You think building another gym for more college students to play ball at is more important than feeding hungry kids with no clothing?

Ok good for you. Your education has done good for you.

Seriously get off your pedestal. Your jealousy of Jefferson just shows.
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Old 08-19-2007, 07:14 AM   #34
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Seriously get off your pedestal. Your jealousy of Jefferson just shows.

Well he has a point.........
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Old 08-19-2007, 07:17 AM   #35
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Class act.......

I think prep to pro players such as LeBron should think about doing something like that.
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:04 AM   #36
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This isn't really much of a story. Yet, you need to be pompous, and criticize.
Universities receive enormous donations all the time. John Kluge, a Columbia alum, is donating $400 milto his former alma mater. Jefferson just wants to build a couple friggin' indoor BASKETBALL COURTS at UA. Get over it.
thanks for backing me up.
they recieve enormous donations all the time.
why would they need jefferson's donation? it means nothing to them.
he'd be making a better choice if he build hospitals like mutumbo did.

anyways, i've stated since the beginning, its his money. its your money. I can't tell you what to do.

however you cant stop me from telling you it's stupid.
like how people here criticize NBA players for wasting their money buying stupid cars, i can do the same, telling you it's a dumb choice.
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Well he has a point.........
No, he doesn't.
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:19 AM   #38
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No, he doesn't.
More like you don't.
You feel like donating just for the sake of it. dumbass.
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More like you don't.
You feel like donating just for the sake of it. dumbass.

No, but you're ignorant, so I can see why you think that. I already explained how the facility benefits people outside of the school, but you ignored it for your perceived righteousness.
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No, but you're ignorant, so I can see why you think that. I already explained how the facility benefits people outside of the school, but you ignored it for your perceived righteousness.
Ok.
How can a gym facility be so beneficial that it is more important to you than donating clothing, food, money to kids in africa?

You say it can benefit the community and hold charity events. Ok, who says you need to have the new gym for the events? The events themselves could be held anywhere, their current gym, or wherever. If someone really has the good intention to hold an event.. then they do not require the gym. The gym is not build for charitable purposes- that is a fact. What else could be held there? basketball camps? that's so important to you?
that 9-12 years old get to learn about fundamentals of basketball?

Please tell me how that is more important to you than say
-donating to a blind school in the suburbs
-buying books and give them to schools that don't have libraries
-establishing a hospital, or at least give it more equipments
-food for the hungry
-clothing for the people who can't afford it
(above can be in US suburbs or third world countries)

So afterall, donating to the school- especially since you don't have a big sum- means nothing. To anybody. Except you, makes you feel a bit better.
You can sleep a little better, have more pride, and brag to friends about it.

Let me ask you this. Why do you even need to donate to the school even if they made you a better person? Did they really? Or was it the professors, the people around you that changed you? Instead of thanking them, you donate to the school.. ok.

And it amounts to nothing.
Good luck. Your idea of what's more 'important' is pretty interesting, really..

it's almost as funny as me going to the front office of microsoft and saying, hey i'm sponsoring you guys with $100. Good luck, I hope it helps you guys plenty.
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It's kind of hard to detect sarcasm in text when you write in a straightforward manner without one of these: :rollingeyes:
I'd say that I wasn't even really being that dry in my sarcasm. I mean I said that the jokes were cliche, and then I get two replies saying the jokes got old. Well what did you think 'cliche' meant in the first place?
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Old 08-19-2007, 10:10 AM   #42
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I don't think you really understand the issue here. I think all you worry about is the base of a dollar. It's not as righteous as you think you are being. If you're more concerned about the efficiency of your dollar then you're just as selfish and stupid as you claim Jefferson, me, or anyone else here to be.

Yes the events can be held anywhere, but does not mean it would be just as easy. Being able to hold events in such a splendid facility saves a whole lot of time and money as much as anything else. Not even that, while his money helps out the community in basketball programs and other activities, it is just as important. His life and success revolved around the programs and why is he to blame for wanting the same success in other individuals? Even if the world can live without this facility it is still a resource.

I'm not here to argue that there are better suited venues in which he can donate his money, just that there is no reason for you to slander him for doing this. It's ridiculous. Talk about efficiency, you sit here writing your lame opinions instead of going to help the people that you mentioned need help. What are you doing that is so great and above and beyond? Why are you here on some message board professing your opinion without substantiating yourself? In the end, it just seems like you're jealous of Jefferson's millions so you find any way to criticize him. Do you even know Richard Jefferson? His parents are Christian missionaries. He's been to Africa, he's helped out third-world countries and people growing up. He's been a charitable guy since birth. He's been helping the people you say need help. But you don't see that. You just decide to criticize him for giving more than he already has. Guy knows about sacrifice. Guy knows about hard work. He's seen people who are impoverished. He's helped them. Who are you to say he's doing something wrong here? Honestly, who are you?

Yes, I can give money to my professors or to other faculty, employers of the university that benefited my growth..but I'm going to choose the school for the simple reason that without the school, I would not have had the opportunity. As well as, my professors would probably rather see that money go into bettering the programs I was part of than to themselves.. My East Asian Studies program needs funding. It has closed down meaningful classes and laid off professors cause of lack of funds. So where you get that they're rich and have enough money is beyond me. I've seen parts of my buildings shut down, saw class sizes shrink in the four years I was there. I saw requirements become more lax because it became more and more impossible to fulfill the intended goal. So when I see the incoming students seeking the same degree I have, I know they won't come out as educated as me and the class that follows them probably will be even worse off. I have professors tell me that the classes they teach today aren't even close to the way they want them to be taught. Why am I to blame for wanting the best for this program that taught me passion and thirst for knowledge and pursuit for this knowledge? How can you properly say something is more important to someone than another thing? There is no value on help. There is no unit of measurement. That's what cynics do. They look at things as what is most output efficient. Improving the life of a 100 people immediately can be viewed the same of improving the life of 10,000 subtlety. I'm sure you can't rack your mind around such a thought.

Like I said earlier, your righteousness is unwarranted and unfounded. You have no basis of anything. You act like this is Richard Jefferson or my only contributions. There is no shame in wanting to repay the people that made him who he is. I said earlier, this would be no different than him deciding to buy a big home for his parents, who are already middle-class. He's done a good thing. Recognize that.

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Old 08-19-2007, 11:03 AM   #43
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I agree with those who feel the money could go to a better cause.

The Uni is going to raise the money for the gym without this donation, it might take them a little longer but if they want to build a new gym its not money thats going to stop them.

Jeffersons got alterior motives anyway...Do you think hed be so generous if the building wasnt to be named after him?

Why would you give 3.5 million dollars to an already financially sound establishment? It doesnt make any sense.


The effects that money could have in Africa is incomprehensible...It could save the lives of up to 500,000 people.

But lets build a gym instead....Your name gets put on the wall, fair enough.


And for the guy who wants to give money to his college...your silly.

a) You'd have to donate a very large amount to make any sort of a difference
b) You've probably already given them more than enough in tuition fees
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Wow. You wrote a lot. But that's all you showed.
What a huge mess of bullshit filled with incoherent thoughts.

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If you're more concerned about the efficiency of your dollar then you're just as selfish and stupid as you claim Jefferson, me, or anyone else here to be.

I've stated many damn times it's more about the importance of where the money goes. You've yet to argue with that, keep bringing it back about efficiency. I say it's more important for the money to go toward another source and you come back again and tell me about efficiency again.

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I'm not here to argue that there are better suited venues in which he can donate his money, just that there is no reason for you to slander him for doing this. It's ridiculous. In the end, it just seems like you're jealous of Jefferson's millions so you find any way to criticize him. Do you even know Richard Jefferson?

Then what the hell are you arguing for? That's pretty much my whole arguement. Read my posts. It's on the fact that there's better places for him to donate. This pretty much sums you up. I'm right, you have nothing more to add except trying to defend the man for your personal reasons. I couldn't give less a damn if it was RJ or you. Anyone who donates a substantial amount of money to a well funded organization is stupid. I've said many many many times. It's his money. He can do whatever he wants, yes. But I'm gonna call on it and say it's stupid.

I'm not basing my criticism on him. I'm basing it on anyone who will donate to a well-funded organization, which you said you will. Quit bringing RJ in this. You've agreed that there is 'better suited venues' for him to donate. Then what other argument do you have? Defend the point I made that anyone donating to such an organization is stupid, because there are much more worthy places in need of donation out there.

And about the parents housing thing, wow, how stupid are you guys to bring that up? Do you guys understand the difference between buying and donating? Buying a house for your parents is great. It's your personal gain that your family gets a property. Here he is donating. DONATING.

Buying a house for his parents is like buying another car for himself. It's his personal gain, it's another story, nothing to do with what we're talking about. We're talking about how it isn't right to donate to a wealthy place when there are more worthy ones out there.

If that was too long, let me sum it up:
You just want to defend the man for whatever reason.
I've based my whole argument on the fact that there is no need for any man to donate to a wealthy organization because it doesn't help,makes no difference, and there are much more places out there that could take the help. You couldn't argue with that. You said 'I'm not here to argue that there are better suited venues in which he can donate his money' which pretty much ended the debate.
I couldn't give a damn about your personal reasons.
Point again: There is no need for any man to donate to a wealthy organization because it doesn't help at all, and there are much more places out there that could take the help.
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I agree with those who feel the money could go to a better cause.

The Uni is going to raise the money for the gym without this donation, it might take them a little longer but if they want to build a new gym its not money thats going to stop them.

Jeffersons got alterior motives anyway...Do you think hed be so generous if the building wasnt to be named after him?

Why would you give 3.5 million dollars to an already financially sound establishment? It doesnt make any sense.


The effects that money could have in Africa is incomprehensible...It could save the lives of up to 500,000 people.

But lets build a gym instead....Your name gets put on the wall, fair enough.


And for the guy who wants to give money to his college...your silly.

a) You'd have to donate a very large amount to make any sort of a difference
b) You've probably already given them more than enough in tuition fees
c) They dont need the money...probably just give the teachers a pay rise, build a better staff room with donations.
Exactly.
Dude needs to take a look at his college's yearly endowments, then he will realize how that no matter how much he is going to give, it's pocket money and will probably go towards electricity for a week or toilet paper.
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