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Old 08-19-2007, 12:48 PM   #46
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Default Re: USA Basketball going nowhere unless it's Kobe's team...

the only chance USA has is to play as a solid, well-balanced unit.
Kidd can bring them together, much more so than Kobe or anyone else.
Balance, defense, unselfish play.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:54 PM   #47
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Default Re: USA Basketball going nowhere unless it's Kobe's team...

Well yeah ... bringing them together because he's the oldest and the most experienced. Plus he has gold medals in his back pocket. But Kobe Bryant is going to be the one the players would more acceptingly rely on during clutch situations and moments. Just re-watch the scrimmage, you could see it in all the player's body languages and faces. They were depending on Kobe Bryant.
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Old 08-19-2007, 01:53 PM   #48
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Well yeah ... bringing them together because he's the oldest and the most experienced. Plus he has gold medals in his back pocket. But Kobe Bryant is going to be the one the players would more acceptingly rely on during clutch situations and moments. Just re-watch the scrimmage, you could see it in all the player's body languages and faces. They were depending on Kobe Bryant.

Except for LeBronze James.

I really think his attitude and arrogance will pose a problem for Team USA.

I see everyone deferring to Kobe Bryant (as they should), except for LeBron.

In the end, IF the US does not qualify....it will be LeBron's fault. Just you watch.
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Old 08-19-2007, 01:54 PM   #49
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I know you got this off Lakersground, so as an experiment, I took this random quote by "Pat Riley" and searched plugged it in on google. Strangely enough, the only result that returns is from Lakersground forums.

Not even saying he didn't say it, but I'm presuming words were altered for agendas to be filled.

thats probably not even the complete sentence. the kobe fan should've written "He ranks right there with Jordan...."
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Old 08-19-2007, 01:58 PM   #50
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I can't believe Wade has a 36 shot attempt game. I always find him kind of conservative when it comes to putting up shots. I'm still shocked he hasn't broke the 50 point barrier, all while I consider him ot be one of the greatest scorers in today's game.


36 Shots

I wonder how many free throws he also had in that game? I mean when you take 36 shots I'm sure you were pretty aggressive in that game. 36 shots and maybe 12 free throws and he has never reached 50 points
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:24 PM   #51
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I know you got this off Lakersground, so as an experiment, I took this random quote by "Pat Riley" and searched plugged it in on google. Strangely enough, the only result that returns is from Lakersground forums.

Not even saying he didn't say it, but I'm presuming words were altered for agendas to be filled.


These were the exact words: "He rates right there, probably with Jordan"

A twisting around of a couple of words. You should do more thorough research before questioning the legibility of anything.
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:30 PM   #52
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Default Re: USA Basketball going nowhere unless it's Kobe's team...

If anyone aside from the coach needs to be a true leader, it needs to be Kidd. And why would some of these guys defer to Kobe totally. Kobe will take a lot of shots, but making him the man on the court is the wrong thing to do.
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:32 PM   #53
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we're screwed anyways. we wont win the golds...again..
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:32 PM   #54
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Default Re: USA Basketball going nowhere unless it's Kobe's team...

Melo should come off the bench.
Lebron's all-around skills at SF would play well with Kobe & Kidd.
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:35 PM   #55
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Here you idiot

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Old 08-19-2007, 03:42 PM   #56
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Melo should come off the bench.
Lebron's all-around skills at SF would play well with Kobe & Kidd.

what kind of strategy is it to bring your best FIBA style player off the bench??

the offense should run through Melo and Kobe. everyone else should (but won't) learn how to be role players.

Lebron should honestly be coming off the bench to provide a big slam here or there when the first unit is resting. thats not hating on Lebron, its just that his lack of mid range shooting is going to hurt the USA when the offense is running through him. Melo and Kobe are the two best fundamental/mid range shooters this team has. If anyone can kill a zone its these two guys. Melo is a 50% shooter. Kobe isnt but when he's ON hes ON.
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:46 PM   #57
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what kind of strategy is it to bring your best FIBA style player off the bench??

the offense should run through Melo and Kobe. everyone else should (but won't) learn how to be role players.

Lebron should honestly be coming off the bench to provide a big slam here or there when the first unit is resting. thats not hating on Lebron, its just that his lack of mid range shooting is going to hurt the USA when the offense is running through him. Melo and Kobe are the two best fundamental/mid range shooters this team has. If anyone can kill a zone its these two guys. Melo is a 50% shooter. Kobe isnt but when he's ON hes ON.

I completely agree.
Although you make it look like Melo's a more efficent shooter than Kobe which isn't true.
Other than that, you're pretty much correct.
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:50 PM   #58
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As a long time Laker fan and supporter of Kobe, I have to say it's embarassing how far up Kobe's butt some of you guys have climbed...
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:51 PM   #59
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I completely agree.
Although you make it look like Melo's a more efficent shooter than Kobe which isn't true.
Other than that, you're pretty much correct.

well with their stats compared Melo is more efficient. but he also doesn't have to carry around the garbage that Kobe plays with. i've never faulted Kobe or Iverson the past 4 years for shooting 26 times a game. a bad Kobe shot is better than a good Sasha shot IMO.

but yeah, put the ball in either Kobe's or Melo's hands and i'll feel safe as a fan.
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well with their stats compared Melo is more efficient. but he also doesn't have to carry around the garbage that Kobe plays with. i've never faulted Kobe or Iverson the past 4 years for shooting 26 times a game. a bad Kobe shot is better than a good Sasha shot IMO.

but yeah, put the ball in either Kobe's or Melo's hands and i'll feel safe as a fan.
Kidd Kobe Melo Lebron, the ball is safe in any of their hands... the only problem i forsee for this team will be players trying to do to much and not recognizing their teamamtes, and we could very well see some of this in the begining but i imagine by the end of the tournament with time on court the pecking order will be come clear of who is the go to guy in a international type format... tradionally it's kind of been a non superstar that's risen to the top for team USA
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