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Old 08-25-2007, 07:23 AM   #1
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Default Larry Bird sucks as an exec

I was going to do a post on this in my "Get to know my views" thread but decided it was worthy of its own thread....



Why does Larry Bird not receive flack for being the worst exec in the league?

Odenorbust recently started a thread about the teams with the worst outlooks. About six people put up list; only one did not include Indy.

Those that did put Indy on their list had them as the first entry. While they may have put the “no particular order” disclaimer up it also shows that Indy was the first team to come to their mind.

Why is it that people regularly attack Kevin McHale, Danny Ainge, Isiah Thomas, etc. while Larry Bird has made bad move after bad move with little notice?
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Old 08-25-2007, 07:40 AM   #2
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Give us a little run down on the bad moves he's made.
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Old 08-25-2007, 07:48 AM   #3
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Default Re: Larry Bird sucks as an exec

In order to get rid of Stephen Jackson, he took on two of the longest and worst cotracts in the league, two big white stiff who such and both have 4 years and 40 plus million, thus ensuring his team would never be under the cap. (just a horrific trade)

He forever sticks with guys who have proven they just cant cut it. (Tinsley, anyone? Is he again going into the season as the starter?)

Just two off the top of my head.
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Old 08-25-2007, 07:51 AM   #4
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HOLY Mother of Christ is this a legit question!!!




Golden State traded Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy, Jr., Ike Diogu, and Keith McLeod to the Indiana Pacers for forward Al Harrington, forward/guard Stephen Jackson, guard Sarunas Jasikevicius, and forward Josh Powell.

On January 24, the Warriors won their first game with their revamped roster, with encouraging play from Monta Ellis, Al Harrington, and Baron Davis against the New Jersey Nets, ending dramatically on a buzzer beater from Ellis.

The Golden State Warrior made it in the post season while the Indiana Pacers are one of the worst team in the NBA. They could have ask for more beside getting more than a bunch of stiff in this trade you cannot actually build your team around Ike Diogu, Mike Dunleavy and Troy Murphy.

You can actually trade Jackson, Harrington and Sarunas Jasikevicius, and forward Josh Howell, to acquire a marquee player in the NBA rather than getting a bunch of role player who cannot even carry this team into the playoffs.

Larry Bird is a great player

Larry Bird is a great coach ( Bird is the only player to win Rookie of the Year, MVP and NBA Coach of the year)

Larry Bird is one of the worst GM in the NBA

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Old 08-25-2007, 07:57 AM   #5
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Default Re: Larry Bird sucks as an exec

Very true. Bird's a disaster as a Gm.
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Old 08-25-2007, 08:03 AM   #6
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Very true. Bird's a disaster as a Gm.
But he's Larry Bird so he'll always get a mulligan.
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Old 08-25-2007, 08:03 AM   #7
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Default Re: Larry Bird sucks as an exec

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Give us a little run down on the bad moves he's made.
How about Birdís very first move as soon as he came into power.

Jermaine O'Neal was a free agent. Jermaine comes to Larry and goes into detail about how close he is with then coach Isiah Thomas. Larry tells Jermaine not to worry that Thomas is not going to be fired. Jermaine re-signs and tells the players heís close to on the team that he was assured Thomas was good.

Not even a month later Bird fires Thomas and hires longtime friend/acquaintance Rick Carlisle.

Bird basically has a full scale mutiny brewing on his hand. Many of the key players want off the team. It took Isiah Thomas talking to Jermaine to calm the situation.

Not even two months into the gig and Bird alienated many of his key players.
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Bird is nowhere near a disaster of a GM as the likes of McHale, Thomas or Knight.
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Old 08-25-2007, 08:32 AM   #9
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Bird is nowhere near a disaster of a GM as the likes of McHale, Thomas or Knight.
Look at what Bird had coming into the Pacers and look what he has now compared to the three you named.
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Bird is nowhere near a disaster of a GM as the likes of McHale, Thomas or Knight.

Yes, he is unfortunately.

And why the hell does Kupchak get a pass?

He's worse than them all.
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Default Re: Larry Bird sucks as an exec

Isn't it sad that you could probably rattle off more names that are crappy or mediocre GM's then good ones.
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Default Re: Larry Bird sucks as an exec

Because there are barely any Pacer fans on this board. There are plenty of Knicks, Celtics, and Wolves fans to point out their GMs faults and for others to make fun of.
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Because there are barely any Pacer fans on this board. There are plenty of Knicks, Celtics, and Wolves fans to point out their GMs faults and for others to make fun of.
I don't mean solely on the board though. Even in national media Bird is rarely recognized for how poor a job he has done.
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Default Re: Larry Bird sucks as an exec

Bird's team is in a state of complete irrelevance.

It's not in some comically bad state where every move they make is news because (much of the time) of how stupid it is (ex: Isiah).

It's not Bird wasting a great player (like Garnett) away because he's a bonehead (ex: McHale) and miraculously keeping his job.

The Pacers are just...there. Nobody really cares about them because they don't do anything that matters. They make bad moves, but not the moves that are really attention-getting bad like trading for Steve Francis when you have Stephon Marbury.
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Larry Bird is an racist....hes a f$cking moron
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