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Old 08-28-2007, 11:12 AM   #16
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it was actually 5 aba and 3 nba, aba doesn't count because it isn't nba and you can't compare what people do in the nba to what they do in the aba. him playing only 3 years in the nba automatically disqualifies him, excepting extreme circumstances
First of all, it was 4 years the the NBA's Bulls.

76-77, 77-78, 78-79, and I counted the 79-80 season, since it starts in 1979. I know he had a knee injury that limited him to 48 games that season, but I don't know if he played any of those 48 in 1979. If he did, then I can include that. Plus, it's really splitting hairs because he didn't even play that well that year, so if you exclude that season, his stats improve. "You can't compare what people do in the nba to what they do in the aba." Who's comparing? This isn't the "NBA's team of the 70's", just "the official team of the 70's." And since when is the ABA a crappy league? They had talented guys, and IMO saying Gilmore's achievements in dominating the ABA is somehow not worthy of mention, even alongside NBA players is ignorant IMO. They were both professional basketball leagues competing against each other for the spotlight. The NBA eventually won, but that doesn't mean the ABA didn't count when talking about player achievements.

Also, how is erving not on this list?

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Old 08-28-2007, 10:21 PM   #17
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76-77, 77-78, 78-79, and I counted the 79-80 season, since it starts in 1979
the 79-80 season is part of the 1980's. 2 months of regular season is played in 1979, the most of the regular season, playoffs, finals, and awards are given in 1980. gilmore only played 3 years in the 70's, in the nba
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"You can't compare what people do in the nba to what they do in the aba." Who's comparing? This isn't the "NBA's team of the 70's", just "the official team of the 70's." And since when is the ABA a crappy league?
the aba was the little brother to the nba. notice how every player who came across to the nba had their numbers dip? notice how only 15% of players who were in the aba actually made it in the nba after the merge? the aba was a ymca league, the nba is the best league. the 70s team was made up of the best league, no compromise.
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you mean the team? dr.j only played 3 seasons, minimum is 4
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Old 08-29-2007, 03:24 PM   #18
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the 79-80 season is part of the 1980's. 2 months of regular season is played in 1979, the most of the regular season, playoffs, finals, and awards are given in 1980. gilmore only played 3 years in the 70's, in the nba

Well, whatever, I'm not going to argue over a few months. It is a moot point anyway because...

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the aba was the little brother to the nba. notice how every player who came across to the nba had their numbers dip? notice how only 15% of players who were in the aba actually made it in the nba after the merge? the aba was a ymca league, the nba is the best league. the 70s team was made up of the best league, no compromise.

...the thread wasn't entitled "Official NBA team of the 70's." The ABA was a pro basketball league, so the players who participated in it should be allowed to be included in a discussion of the best players in the decade. If the ABA was so inferior to the NBA, why was it so popular? Yeah, the league folded eventually, but that doesn't mean at one time that it wasn't as popular as the NBA. Also, why did the NBA take things from the ABA to include into their game? If the NBA was so superior, they wouldn't have changed their league at all.

You said 15% of the players came over, well, that's because if the NBA took everybody from teh ABA, it couldn't handle taking on that amount of growth at one time. It wasn't a good business choice. They would be dealing with a big mess if they did that. It's not that the talent wasn't there, it's that the NBA didn't want to bite off more than it could chew. And about talent, there were NBA stars who came from the ABA, so don't act like it was a horrible league. You are acting like those players who couldn't cut it in the NBA were forced to play in the ABA. It wasn't the D-League. There are examples of big time talent that signed with the ABA over the NBA teams. Jerry Lucas, Moses Malone, Julius Erving, Geroge McGinnis, Dan Issel, etc. None of these guys were any less of a player because of the ABA (Lucas ended up never playing in the ABA, but still signed a contract).

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you mean the team? dr.j only played 3 seasons, minimum is 4

Again, no mention of any criteria that had to be met to be included in this thread. Any player who played professional basketball in the decade should be able to be mentioned.
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the thread wasn't entitled "Official NBA team of the 70's." The ABA was a pro basketball league, so the players who participated in it should be allowed to be included in a discussion of the best players in the decade.
yes, lets also include every basketball playing country in the world when considering all decade teams :rollingeyes:
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If the ABA was so inferior to the NBA, why was it so popular? Yeah, the league folded eventually, but that doesn't mean at one time that it wasn't as popular as the NBA. Also, why did the NBA take things from the ABA to include into their game? If the NBA was so superior, they wouldn't have changed their league at all.
the aba was never as popular as the nba. and you don't think the nba would eventually include blocks and steals, had there been no aba?
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It's not that the talent wasn't there, it's that the NBA didn't want to bite off more than it could chew.
did anyone from the aba's numbers increase after the merge?
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And about talent, there were NBA stars who came from the ABA, so don't act like it was a horrible league. You are acting like those players who couldn't cut it in the NBA were forced to play in the ABA.
it wasn't a horrible league, but it wasn't the nba - the best basketball league in the world. so what people accomplished in the aba can't be brought over and recognised with what people accomplished in the nba
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Jerry Lucas, Moses Malone, Julius Erving, Geroge McGinnis, Dan Issel, etc. None of these guys were any less of a player because of the ABA
if those players played in the nba for their entire careers instead of playing some in the aba, they would be recognised much more in terms of career accomplishments and all-time ranking. it hurts someone like julius erving the most because he played his prime years in the aba
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Again, no mention of any criteria that had to be met to be included in this thread. Any player who played professional basketball in the decade should be able to be mentioned.
yeh, you're right..change the starting point guard from walt frazier to ching weng of the china basketball accociation..he deserved it much more
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