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Old 09-02-2007, 03:31 PM   #1
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Default Official #70 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH

#69 - David Thompson. “Skywalker” is what they called him as he flew through the air. At no more then 6’3 Thompson was one of the games greatest leapers dunking over any and everyone. His first season with the ABA (and last) he was named Rookie of the Year and All-NBA 2nd team. Coming into the NBA the next season, his Nuggets were one of the better teams. He was one of the finest players making two straight All-NBA first teams and battling rival George Gervin for the 1978 scoring race. He made a total of 5 All-Star games before his knee’s and drugs gave way after a 9 year career.

| PPG 22.7 | RPG 4.1 | APG 3.3 | SPG 1 |
5 ABA/NBA All-Star Games
3 All-NBA Teams
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ISH 100 Greatest NBA Players of All-Time
1. Michael Jordan
2. Wilt Chamberlain
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Earvin 'Magic' Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Bill Russell
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Oscar Robertson
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Tim Duncan
11. Jerry West
12. Julius Erving
13. Moses Malone
14. Elgin Baylor
15. Bob Pettit
16. John Havlicek
17. Karl Malone
18. George Mikan
19. David Robinson
20. Isiah Thomas
21. Charles Barkley
22. John Stockton
23. Bob Cousy
24. Kobe Bryant
25. Rick Barry
26. Scottie Pippen
27. Clyde Drexler
28. Gary Payton
29. Willis Reed
30. Patrick Ewing
31. Allen Iverson
32. Walt Frazier
33. Elvin Hayes
34. George Gervin
35. Jason Kidd
36. Dave Cowens
37. Kevin Garnett
38. Bob McAdoo
39. Nate Thurmond
40. Wes Unseld
41. Kevin McHale
42. Dolph Schayes
43. Dominique Wilkins
44. Bill Walton
45. Sam Jones
46. Kevin Johnson
47. Dennis Rodman
48. Dirk Nowitzki
49. Steve Nash
50. Billy Cunningham
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51. Nate 'Tiny' Archibald
52. 'Pistol' Pete Maravich
53. Tracy McGrady
54. Hal Greer
55. Jerry Lucas
56. Robert Parish
57. Earl 'the Pearl' Monroe
58. Bernard King
59. Artis Gilmore
60. Alex English
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61. James Worthy
62. Joe Dumars
63. Bill Sharman
64. Reggie Miller
65. Paul Arizin
66. Sidney Moncrief
67. Dave DeBusschere
68. Dave Bing
69. David Thompson

Players to consider:
Walt Bellamy
Adrian Dantley
Connie Hawkins
Spencer Haywood
Grant Hill
Dennis Johnson
Bob Lanier
Alonzo Mourning
Chris Webber
Lenny Wilkens


#69 Greatest Player Voting
David Thompson = 4 votes
Chris Webber = 3 votes
Dennis Johnson = 2 votes
Grant Hill = 2 votes
Lenny Wilkens = 2 votes
Neil Johnston = 2 votes
Connie Hawkins = 1 vote
Adrian Dantley = 1 vote


Official #69 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH

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Old 09-02-2007, 03:38 PM   #2
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:42 PM   #3
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:47 PM   #4
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:49 PM   #5
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Anyone else notice the last three guys have been named Dave/David? Weird.

Anyway, Grant Hill.
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:53 PM   #6
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Leonard Wilkens:


1 finals apperance
Hall Of Famer
One of the NBA's 50 Greatest Players.
9-time all star.
1971 all star game mvp.
Led league in apg once.
Led league in overall assists twice.
Taking away his last season which he was 37, his career stats are:
17.1 ppg, 6.8 apg, 4.9 rpg.

Career High's:
22.4 ppg.
9.6 apg.
6.6 rpg.
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Neil Johnston was the equivalent of the MVP of the 1954-55 season. Lenny Wilkens was never close to winning an MVP.

Johnston was selected to 4 All-NBA 1st Teams and 1 All-NBA 2nd Team. Wilkens was never selected to an All-NBA Team.

Johnston led the league in PPG 3 times, FG% 3 times, and RPG once. Wilkens led the league in APG once.

Johnston was arguably the best player on a championship team and may have deserved Finals MVP. Wilkens didn't win a ring as a player, and he spent the last 7 seasons of his career not making the playoffs.

I vote for Neil Johnston.
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Old 09-02-2007, 08:59 PM   #9
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Come on, Walt Bellamy or Bob Lanier for crying out loud. These are 2 of the greatest bigs to ever play the game and you guys keep ignoring them.

Lanier please. Then Bellamy. Then you can continue on with voting for SGs
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Neil Johnston was the equivalent of the MVP of the 1954-55 season. Lenny Wilkens was never close to winning an MVP.

Lenny was second to Wilt in 1968 ahead of Baylor, west, Russell, and Oscar. He also made the finals I think twice and got to game 7 of the WCF 3 times after Bob retired. Lost to the Lakers in 2 of them. And about him missing the playoffs in his sonics years...

They won 47 games one year and still missed the playoffs as did the 49 win Suns. Playoffs or not thats a good season. 4 teams made it from each conference. Just so happens the Lakers won 69, the Bucks won 63, the Bulls won 57, and the Warriors won 51. all were WC teams back then. Its not a playoff year but its not what we consider a lottery team level season these days.

And Johnson may have won the 55 MVP had they done voting but not if the voting went like it has historically. They only won 33 games. Had the 6th best record of 8 teams. Dolph Schayes led the best team and they went on to win the title. I wouldnt be suprised if he got MVP that year. Lebron led the league in all NBA votes a couple years ago and didnt win MVP. It can happen.

And for no particular reason these guys also had second place MVP finishes

Nate Thurmond(behind wilt)
Nique(Behind Bird)
Bernard King(also behind Bird)
Gervin(2 years in a row behind Kareem and Moses)
Jerry West(4 times...3 of them in a row losing to Reed then Kareem twice).

Zo and drexler also got second place once.

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Old 09-02-2007, 09:59 PM   #11
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LENNY WILKENS

I voted for "the Hawk" the past two spots but looking up a little more on Lenny Wilkens, I find him to be a tad bit greater then Connie Hawkins.


Lenny Wilkens was one of the great point guards of the 1960's and early 70's. He led the league in assist in 1970 and total assist for two seasons. He wasn't a bad scorer either coming in 9th in total points in 1969. Also judging by his free throe totals, he was quit the driver and penetrator back in his day.


When he was wth the St. Louis Hawks, he was apart of one of the best teams of the 1960's. The one season the Hawks didn't make the playoffs, Wilkens played 20 games because of Military service. Once he was traded to the Sonics (then a new franchise) and the Cavs (another new franchise) he was aprt of some very bad teams, but he still performed well.


The one thing y'all may notice about Wilkens is his lack of All-NBA teams. Well Wilkens was drafted in 1960, the same draft that featured guards Oscar Roberston and Jerry West, that's two spotrs right there. You also had Bob Cousy who was making All-NBA team up until he retired. You then have his Celtic buddy Sam Jones who made three straight All-2nd teams in the mid 60's. Hal Greer was also bumped down to second team (7 straight) because of West/Oscar. Then later in the decade you had guards like Clyde Frazier, Monroe, Tiny Archibald, Dave Bing and Tiny Archibald. Oh yeah, all those guards I named are already on the 100 greatest list.


In 1989, he was inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame and in 1996, named apart of the NBA‘s 50th Anniversary Team.


-9 NBA All-Star Teams
-Reached the NBA Finals once (1961)
-2nd in MVP voting (1968)
-Career high points per game 22.4 (1969)
-Career high rebounds per game 6.6 (1962)
-Career high assist per game 9.6 (1972)
-Career high FG% .47 (1972)

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Vince Lamar Carter



Awards and achievements

8-time NBA All-Star selection: 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 (2002-did not play due to injury)
2-time All-NBA:
Second Team: 2001
Third Team: 2000
NBA Slam Dunk Champion 2000
NBA All-Rookie First Team: 1999
NBA Rookie of the Year Award: 1999
The Sporting News NBA Rookie of the Year: 1999[33]

NBA playoff records

Co-holds NBA playoff record for most three-point field goals made in one game with 9 (May 11, 2001 vs. Philadelphia 76ers, Eastern Conference semi Finals).

Holds NBA playoff record for most three-point field goals made in one half with 8 (same game as above).

Holds NBA playoff record for most consecutive three-point field goals made in one game with 8 (same game as above).

Holds NBA playoff record for most consecutive three-point field goals made in one half with 8 (same game as above).

Career highs

Points 51
Field Goals Made 20 vs. Milwaukee 01/14/00
Field Goals Attempted 36 @ Philadelphia 01/21/01
Three Point Field Goals Made 9 vs. Memphis 12/11/06
Three Point Field Goals Attempted 20 vs. Memphis 12/11/06
Free Throws Made 23 @ Miami 12/23/05
Free Throws Attempted 27 @ Phoenix 12/30/00
Offensive Rebounds 8 vs. Chicago 11/05/05
Defensive Rebounds 13 2 Times
Total Rebounds 16 vs. Washington 04/07/07
Assists 13 @ Golden State 01/24/07
Steals 6 2 Times
Blocks 6 vs. Chicago 03/28/99
Minutes Played 63 vs. Sacramento 02/23/01

Regular Season Stats

24.1 PPG, 5.8 APG, 4.1 RPG, 1.3 SPG

Playoffs stats

25.9, 6.9 RPG, 5.2 APG, 1.5 SPG

Vince Carter is definitely one of the most electrifying Superstar to ever grace the NBA Court. He is also the best dunker in the history of the NBA beside the fact that he is one of those superstar that put the toronto raptors in the map of the NBA. He lead the Raptors to an eastern conference finals appearance as the franchise player of this team. The only problem with his game is his lack of his work ethic since he came back from an injury during the 2004-05 seaso, Carter average 15.9 PPG in the regular season.

Vince Carters Best game of his career

In a 120–114 overtime win over the Washington Wizards, April 7, 2007, Vince Carter and Jason Kidd became the first teammates in over 18 years to record triple-doubles in the same game since the Chicago Bulls' Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen achieved this feat against the Los Angeles Clippers in 1989. Carter finished with 46 points, a career-high 16 rebounds, and 10 assists. Kidd finished with 10 points, tied a career-high with 16 rebounds, and tied a season-high with 18 assists. Carter's Triple Double is the second highest total for a triple double, second only to Alvin Adams of the Phoenix Suns who tallied 47 points and 18 rebounds over 30 years ago

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I'll be in the not-Vince club. (Pierce is far greater).

So I'll vote Connie Hawkins.
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Neil Johnston was the equivalent of the MVP of the 1954-55 season. Lenny Wilkens was never close to winning an MVP.

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Lenny was second to Wilt in 1968

It could just be me, but it would probably help to know what you're talking about before voting on who the seventieth greatest player is.
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