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Old 09-03-2007, 03:17 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Bored...Sac/Clev/Orl/SA trade idea

Just was bored and came up with this blockbuster idea. This could very well be a pipe dream lol but anyway like I said, I was bored

Sac trades Mike Bibby 09 2nd rounder
Gets Carlos Arroyo,Pat Garrity,Brent Barry,James Augustine

Reason; ends the saga with Bibby, Basically this was clearly to dump Bibby's salary with all those expirings coming back to Sac.

New lineup
Brad/Mikkie/Hawes/**Garrity**
Kenny/Justin/Agustine*/SAR*
Artest/Cisco
Kevin/Salmons/Douby
Arroyo/Barry/Shukur*

Clev trades Drew Gooden,Larry Hughes,Damon Jones,David Wesly,Shannon Brown 08 1st rounder (top 20 protected)
Gets Mike Bibby,Tony Battie,Hedo Turkoglu, Ian Mahinmi

Reason; This puts Clevland right back into the mix of things meanning contending for the NBA Title once again. They add alot of depth and more talent. They were lacking size and by this deal they get the help they need. Not to mention they added some perimeter shooting to spread the floor. Also they rid themselves of streaky Larry Hughes who never gel'd with the offense.

New Lineup
Big Z/Tony Battie
Hedo/Varejao/Mahinim*
Lebron/Donyell Marshall/Ira
Alexander Plav/Gibson
Bibby/Snow


Orl trades Hedo Turkaglu,Carlos Arroyo,Tony Battie,James Agustine,Pat Garrity
Gets Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, Shannon Brown 09 2nd rounder (SAC)

Reason; They desperately could use a Defensive minded SG and a starter at that because they are really weak at that postion. Hughes would bring mental toughness to the squad. With the newly signed Foyle on the squad now that makes Battie expendable. Drew Gooden is more of the PF they are looking for, he crashes the boards real well and is a wonderful post Defender. Coach Stan would love to have he and Hughes on the squad.

New lineup
Dwight/Foyle
Drew Gooden/Fran Vazquez/Bo Outlaw*
Rashard Lewis/Ariza
Hughes/Bogans/JJ Redick
Nelson/Dooling

SA trades Brent Barry Ian Mahinim
Gets Damon Jones David Wesly 09 1st top 20 protected (Clev)

Reason; Basically Brent has been in Pops Dog House for the past 2 seasons now. Bringing in Jones would be to bring some 3pt shooting to the squad and would enable them a draft pick. Wesly would just become a vet mentoring players. A good lockerroom guy. And maybe could be that of Avery Johnson i.e joining Pops staff

New Lineup
Elson/Orbeto
Duncan/Horry
Bowen/Udoka
Finely/Manu/Wesly
Parker/Jones/Vaughn/Udrih*

Thoughts?? ....
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:21 PM   #2
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Default Re: Bored...Sac/Clev/Orl/SA trade idea

The Cavaliers make out like bandits in this trade.
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:25 PM   #3
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The Cavaliers make out like bandits in this trade.
i agree but i feel that everyone gets what they want...with the exception of SA. They were just the team that was needed to get the deal done
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:27 PM   #4
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i agree but i feel that everyone gets what they want...with the exception of SA. They were just the team that was needed to get the deal done
What about San Antonio's excellent roster decision history suggests that they'd go in on a deal like this just to help someone out?
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:30 PM   #5
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Default Re: Bored...Sac/Clev/Orl/SA trade idea

Why the h*** is Fran Vazquez in Orlando's roster?
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:33 PM   #6
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What about San Antonio's excellent roster decision history suggests that they'd go in on a deal like this just to help someone out?
I think i stated a reason ..Brent wants to play and Pop has him in the dog house. When guys like Vaughn logs more minutes than you, you know something isnt going right. He (Brent) already has rings, now he wants to play. It's as plain and simple as that imo
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:33 PM   #7
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Why the h*** is Fran Vazquez in Orlando's roster?
He isnt on their roster???
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:37 PM   #8
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I think i stated a reason ..Brent wants to play and Pop has him in the dog house. When guys like Vaughn logs more minutes than you, you know something isnt going right. He (Brent) already has rings, now he wants to play. It's as plain and simple as that imo
It doesn't really matter what Barry wants. Barry wanting to play isn't compelling enough for management to send away the guy they moved Scola to make room for (Mahinmi) just to accomodate a bench player.
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:45 PM   #9
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Default Re: Bored...Sac/Clev/Orl/SA trade idea

The other thing is there is no way the Cavs will land Bibby this offseason. No. Freaking. Way.

In real life, the Cavs have nothing the Kings want? What would Sac town do with a inconsistent pf in gooden and a broken down guard in Hughes? Adding in major liabilities such as Jones and Wesley?

SaKf is right. There's no way SA does that. R.C. Buford is arguably the best GM in the league, he will not discredit his excellent managing history just to make Lebron happy.

Let's say the trade does miraculously happen. Let's just assume it does and take a look at their lineup through your proposed trade:

Big Z
Hedo
Lebron
Pavolovic
Bibby


Personally, I don't think this would help them much. Sure, it would get them to the ECF, possibly Finals, but winning the title with this lineup? Out of the question. You have a aging center who doesn't get involved in the offense enough, a soft 6 foot 10 power forward in Hedo, your franchise player who still needs to learn how to shoot long range and make free throws against NBA competition. So don't give me this: OH YEAH HE KILLIN IN DAT FIBA TOURNEY BOI. Bullshyt. Then another slightly inconsistent shooter in Pav and finally a shoot first guard who's also on the downside of his career. Their bench isn't anything to have an orgy over either.

You should be bored less often from now on.
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Old 09-03-2007, 03:54 PM   #10
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Default Re: Bored...Sac/Clev/Orl/SA trade idea

Cleveland gets the best trade. Spurs get the worst since they really did change too much.
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:28 PM   #11
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Default Re: Bored...Sac/Clev/Orl/SA trade idea

The Spurs have invested too much in Ian Mahinmi to let him walk for Damon "hollywood" jones and david wesley. even barry has given us productive minutes and he can fit in at the 2 or the 1.

Udrih is the guy on the outs. if you can come up with a trade involving him then the spurs would do it without even thinking about it.
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:21 PM   #12
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lol ok

and Ian plays what postion the 4 or 3??
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:26 PM   #13
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lol at hughes "adding mental toughness"
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Default Re: Bored...Sac/Clev/Orl/SA trade idea

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He isnt on their roster???

He never signed a contract with them, still playing in Spain and I would not expect him to go there soon.
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Old 09-03-2007, 06:14 PM   #15
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Default Re: Bored...Sac/Clev/Orl/SA trade idea

Cavs and Magic both are getting great deals.

Sacramento is getting so-so back (too much depth), they should get one of the following: another young project player, a 1st rounder, or trade away a crappy contract.

SA is getting a so-so deal. Maybe if they could shed some salary in this deal? Depends on how much Pop and Barry have soured.
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