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Old 09-06-2007, 08:14 AM   #16
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Default Re: Do you think Josh Smith will be better than Vince Carter?

Josh Smith is overrated. He's great defensively, but he really needs to refine his offensive game BIG TIME. All he can really do at this point is dunk, he's already going into his 4th year. No way he's even close to VC level.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:21 AM   #17
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Default Re: Do you think Josh Smith will be better than Vince Carter?

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When all is sayd and done, VC will probably be in the top 60 players of all time
No he won't. He doesn't get rated over any of the guys in the NBA 50 list, and here are 10 guys not on that list that have had/will have clearly superior careers (in no particular order):
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Allen Iverson
4. Jason Kidd
5. LeBron James
6. Dwyane Wade
7. Kevin Garnett
8. Carmelo Anthony
9. Dominique Wilkins
10. Gary Payton

I would also rate the careers of Paul Pierce, Tracy McGrady, Alonzo Mourning, and Connie Hawkins, and Steve Nash above his, although some of those could be argued. And there are probably guys I didn't think of.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:27 AM   #18
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Default Re: Do you think Josh Smith will be better than Vince Carter?

I'm not sure that Smith can be better than Carter was in his prime. I wouldn't be shocked if he can end up better than Carter is right now though.
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Old 09-06-2007, 08:35 AM   #19
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Default Re: Do you think Josh Smith will be better than Vince Carter?

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No he won't. He doesn't get rated over any of the guys in the NBA 50 list, and here are 10 guys not on that list that have had/will have clearly superior careers (in no particular order):
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Allen Iverson
4. Jason Kidd
5. LeBron James
6. Dwyane Wade
7. Kevin Garnett
8. Carmelo Anthony
9. Dominique Wilkins
10. Gary Payton

I would also rate the careers of Paul Pierce, Tracy McGrady, Alonzo Mourning, and Connie Hawkins, and Steve Nash above his, although some of those could be argued. And there are probably guys I didn't think of.

Fair point mate, make it top 80... 3 or 4 more years of heavy scoring should lock him in there....
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:23 AM   #20
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Default Re: Do you think Josh Smith will be better than Vince Carter?

VC is a totally different type of player so it's conceivable Josh could be as important overall to a team it is probably a certainty it won't be becuz of scoring. becuz he was traded to NJ becuz he's not the leader of a team and becuz there are T-Mac's (who conceivably will get somewhere in Houston) PP who will likely get to the finals now, KB8 who has already been to the finals
VC could/should fade like Penny and not make the top 200 players all time...I mean up til now he's had one great play-off series.....that's it...lotta people have had that. He's a good scorer but so was Jamal Mashburn or Larry Johnson...unless something happens soon or he goes super nova he's a guy who won't be remembered past his era.

Josh Smith is Larry Nance 2000 dunk comp and all.
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:48 AM   #21
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Default Re: Do you think Josh Smith will be better than Vince Carter?

For half of a season, yes, Josh Smith will be better than Vince Carter.

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Old 09-06-2007, 09:53 AM   #22
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Josh Smith is overrated. He's great defensively, but he really needs to refine his offensive game BIG TIME. All he can really do at this point is dunk, he's already going into his 4th year. No way he's even close to VC level.

He's not even that great defensively. He is good, but it's not like he is one of the best defenders. If he didn't get so many blocks nobody would be calling him a great defender, and defense is a lot more than just blocks.
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