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Old 09-10-2007, 10:57 AM   #1
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Default Do you think the 2000 election (Bush vs Gore) was fixed?

I have to say it was....



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MIAMI (AP) -- A federal judge has approved a settlement between Leon County and civil rights groups that sued over widespread voting
problems in the 2000 presidential election in Florida.

The state and six other counties remain in the case brought by the
NAACP and four other groups who sued in a dispute that grew out of
the long-uncertain results of Florida's vote for president.

"There was nothing they were seeking that was impossible to achieve,"
Ion Sancho, Leon County supervisor of elections, said Friday. "I've
been a proponent of settlement from the moment the lawsuit was
filed."

Thomasina Williams, one of the attorneys for voters, said settlement
talks are under way with other counties, and she was optimistic that
some will follow Leon's move. Trial is set for Aug. 26.

State lawmakers changed election laws in response to complaints after
the 2000 election, but critics said the changes didn't go far enough.

In the biggest departure from current procedures, Leon agreed to give
a written explanation to voters whose ballots are rejected. The idea
to make that a state standard was discarded by the Legislature.

The groups that sued agreed that the settlement "achieves some if not
all of the relief" they could have obtained at trial, according to
the court order dropping Leon from the lawsuit last week.

The county agreed to address disputes over voting, voter registration
and voting lists and will meet with community groups to boost
registration, with special efforts targeting minorities and college
students. Sancho said he was doing all of that before.

Many voters said their votes didn't count or they were turned away
from polls due to mistakes on voter lists, busy telephone lines at
election headquarters, punch-card voting machine foul-ups and other
problems.

Statewide, the largest numbers of voting problems were found in
precincts with high proportions of black and elderly voters.

Under the settlement, both sides will work to restore voters who were
wrongly removed from voters lists in the 2000 election. Many
law-abiding voters across the state said their names were dropped
because they were mistakenly pegged as ex-cons, who generally aren't
allowed to vote in Florida.

The county also agreed to improve communication and training for
staffers who work on election day.

Leon County includes the state capital of Tallahassee.



http://www.dangerouscitizen.com/Articles/1208.aspx





I'm sure that there are some here on ISH that will disagree...

If I recall correctly... I think they claimed that Bush won by
532 votes.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:02 AM   #2
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Default Re: Do you think the 2000 election (Bush vs Gore) was fixed?

Bush used the law to win.

Better lawyers, louder voices.

Gore lost because he didn't have the hook-up in Florida like Bush did (Katherine Harris etc...), and as long as Florida remains a tax haven it will have its share of hardcore right wing people in powerful civil service positions keeping it that way, and those people will help the Republicans any way they can.

Florida is a swing state too so this bodes well for the right.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:06 AM   #3
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Bush used the law to win.

Better lawyers, louder voices.

Gore lost because he didn't have the hook-up in Florida like Bush did (Katherine Harris etc...), and as long as Florida remains a tax haven it will have its share of hardcore right wing people in powerful civil service positions keeping it that way, and those people will help the Republicans any way they can.

Florida is a swing state too so this bodes well for the right.


Not sure if that answered the question...
Was that a yes?
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Default Re: Do you think the 2000 election (Bush vs Gore) was fixed?

The problem with the American presidential election is the electoral college.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:14 AM   #5
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The problem with the American presidential election is the electoral college.

Obviously, but was the 2000 election fixed?

I'm certain it was.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:22 AM   #6
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Obviously, but was the 2000 election fixed?

I'm certain it was.

Define fixed in this context as that is just too general a statement. you gotta be a bit more specific.
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Not sure if that answered the question...
Was that a yes?


The US electoral systems is vulnerable to legal wrangling. Bush had the hook up if you will, and it is not really cheating if the refs dont call it. Gore didn't want it as bad.
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The US electoral systems is vulnerable to legal wrangling. Bush had the hook up if you will, and it is not really cheating if the refs dont call it. Gore didn't want it as bad.

Lol us basketball fans see everything through the eyes of the game. Its a beautiful thing.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:44 AM   #9
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Define fixed in this context as that is just too general a statement. you gotta be a bit more specific.


WELL AFTER GETTING AN IDEA OF HOW THE PUBLIC WOULD VOTE....

Florida was used to steal the election... knowing that everything else
was pretty much safe (as far as electoral points go)... They had a preconcieved notion that it would come down to Florida.

Do you think Thousands upon Thousands of votes were thrown out on purpose in order for Bush to win.

I just don't understand how you can have a recount????

It was probably because Gore won by about 50,000 votes in Florida,
won the election, the media was used to report it diferently....
(specifically Fox saying that Bush had won Florida)
thus causing a recount.... thus causing a way to discredit a $hit load
of votes... Thus FIXING the election.
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WELL AFTER GETTING AN IDEA OF HOW THE PUBLIC WOULD VOTE....

Florida was used to steal the election... knowing that everything else
was pretty much safe (as far as electoral points go)... They had a preconcieved notion that it would come down to Florida.

Do you think Thousands upon Thousands of votes were thrown out on purpose in order for Bush to win.

I just don't understand how you can have a recount????

It was probably because Gore won by about 50,000 votes in Florida,
won the election, the media was used to report it diferently....
(specifically Fox saying that Bush had won Florida)
thus causing a recount.... thus causing a way to discredit a $hit load
of votes... Thus FIXING the election.

Its possible but I doubt votes were just thrown out, whats more likely and makes more sense is to just not allow a large amount of voters you know are gonna vote against you from voting which is more then likely what happened.
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Go check, it says Gullible on your T-Shirt.
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Go check, it says Gullible on your T-Shirt.

Checking.. Nope nothing.
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Checking.. Nope nothing.
DON was talking to the thread starter, who believes just about any conspiracy theory ever written.
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DON was talking to the thread starter, who believes just about any conspiracy theory ever written.

gb8 understands now.
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DON was talking to the thread starter, who believes just about any conspiracy theory ever written.

Don can take his one "talking-in-the-third-person" joke...
and go to hell.

That is the only joke you got. Not funny anymore.

Hurry up and get to 1,000 posts already.
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