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Old 09-23-2007, 09:06 PM   #16
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Default Re: what is the best & worst outcome for every 2007 rookie?

Brandan Wright- Best case: Kevin McHale, Kevin Garnett; Worst Case: Chris Bosh.


I'm only half kidding- Worst case: Channing Frye ; D
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:25 PM   #17
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Basically who will this year's prospects turn out to be in best and worst case scenarios?

Here are my predictions:

1. Greg Oden: (will miss the season but whatever) Best: David Robinson Worst: Marcus Camby

2. Kevin Durant: Tracy Mcgrady; Lamar Odom

3. Al Horford: Carlos Boozer; Udonis Haslem

4. Mike Conley Jr: Chris Paul; Damon Stoudmire

5. Jeff Green: Richard Jefferson; Josh Howard

6. Yi Jianlian: Chris Bosh; Darius Miles

7. Corey Brewer: Andre Iguodala; Tayshaun Prince

8. Brandon Wright: Shawn Marion; Kenyon Martin

9. Joakim Noah: Tyson Chandler; Anderson Verajao

10. Spencer Hawes: Vlade Divac; Chris Kaman

11. Acie Law: Chauncey Billups; Jamal Crawford

12. Thaddeus Young: Rashard Lewis; Caron Butler

13. Julian Wright: Eddie Jones; Tim Thomas

14. Al Thornton: Corey Maggette; Desmond Mason

So wrong in so many ways... can a comparison to an all-star really be a worst case-scenario? Brandon Wright playing like Shawn Marion???? Thaddeus Young like Rashard Lewis????

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Old 09-23-2007, 09:31 PM   #18
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Default Re: what is the best & worst outcome for every 2007 rookie?

You actually compared Kevin Durant to Lamar Odom?

I'm not even going to waste my time telling you how terrible of a comparision that is.
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Old 09-23-2007, 09:32 PM   #19
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Default Re: what is the best & worst outcome for every 2007 rookie?

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Basically who will this year's prospects turn out to be in best and worst case scenarios?

Here are my predictions:

1. Greg Oden: (will miss the season but whatever) Best: David Robinson Worst: Marcus Camby
2. Kevin Durant: Tracy Mcgrady; Lamar Odom
3. Al Horford: Carlos Boozer; Udonis Haslem
4. Mike Conley Jr: Chris Paul; Damon Stoudmire
5. Jeff Green: Richard Jefferson; Josh Howard
6. Yi Jianlian: Chris Bosh; Darius Miles
7. Corey Brewer: Andre Iguodala; Tayshaun Prince
8. Brandon Wright: Shawn Marion; Kenyon Martin
9. Joakim Noah: Tyson Chandler; Anderson Verajao
10. Spencer Hawes: Vlade Divac; Chris Kaman
11. Acie Law: Chauncey Billups; Jamal Crawford
12. Thaddeus Young: Rashard Lewis; Caron Butler
13. Julian Wright: Eddie Jones; Tim Thomas
14. Al Thornton: Corey Maggette; Desmond Mason
What a horrible prediction that lacks understanding of each guy's game. Kevin Durant isn't as versatile as Odom, yet you expect him to be like Lamar Odom at worst. Damon Stoudamire won the rookie of the year award and the Grizzlies should be happy if Conley could be close enough to be as good as a rookie season Stoudamire. Brendan Wright plays nothing like Shawn Marion, and Yi Jianlian is already a much better shooter than Darius Miles. And Julian Wright is a 3 with some 4, there's no way he could be like Eddie Jones.

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Old 09-23-2007, 09:36 PM   #20
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] And Julian Wright is a 3 with some 4, there's no way he could be like Eddie Jones.

To top it off, Eddie Jones' primary skill is his shooting touch, which is at the bottom of the list of Wright's talents
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:42 PM   #21
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Miller is a career 18 point per game scorer whose game was built around outside shooting and off ball movement.

Well if Almond will "most likely" average over 30 points twice in his career...well I will be the happiest season ticket holder in the NBA.

The thing I loved about Miller was that if he couldn't get free of the defense, he would just step back a few yards and nail it anyway.

Now I hope Almond fills the 2 guard hole for the Jazz, if we get a one time all-star I will be suprised though.
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:45 PM   #22
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Default Re: what is the best & worst outcome for every 2007 rookie?

I'm not concerned with season by season averages. I'm looking more at the on-court play and productivity for the longhaul.

Wait a second, did you just say Reggie Miller averaged over 30 a game?
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:56 PM   #23
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Default My attempt:

I'll just say best case.

1. Greg Oden: David Robinson (perhaps more injury prone )

2. Kevin Durant: Bernard King

3. Al Horford: Karl Malone

4. Mike Conley Jr: Tony Parker (with better passing)

5. Jeff Green: Lamar Odom (but smaller)

6. Yi Jianlian: Brad Lohaus

7. Corey Brewer: Stacey Augmon

8. Brandon Wright: John Wallace

9. Joakim Noah: Boris Diaw/ Tyson Chandler cross

10. Spencer Hawes: Brad Miller

11. Acie Law: Will Avery

12. Thaddeus Young: JR Smith

13. Julian Wright: Josh Childress (just the level of player, not really similar styles)

14. Al Thornton: Al Harrington
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:01 PM   #24
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I still view Jeff Green's best case as a better with the ball Andres Nocioni.

Both are SF's with almost PF size that allows them to bully smaller defenders. Both have a good interior game with a decent perimeter game. Both are better when first establishing the interior then looking for perimeter shots.
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:02 PM   #25
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Default Re: what is the best & worst outcome for every 2007 rookie?

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Kevin Durant

Best Case Scenario: Tracy Mcgrady, Carmelo Anthony and Prime Larry Bird.

Mid Case Scenario: Rashard Lewis

Worst Case Scenario- Jonathan Bender



Maybe its me

but Isn't Durant skill set the same as Rashard Lewis
They're basically the same player
unless Durant is some how a dominant rebounder
which I don't see possible since he can't bench 135 pounds
or he's a great passer

they damn near the same player
can someone tell me the difference between the 2?
I can't be the only one thats thought this
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:04 PM   #26
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1. Greg Oden: Best: David Robinson Worst: Sam Bowie
2. Kevin Durant: Tracy McGrady; Andre Iguodala
3. Al Horford: Elton Brand; DeSagana Diop
4. Mike Conley Jr: Gilbert Arenas; Avery Johnson
5. Jeff Green: Vince Carter; Bostjan Nachbar
6. Yi Jianlian: Dirk Nowitzki; Darius Rice
7. Corey Brewer: Shawn Marion; Bruce Bowen
8. Brandan Wright: Chris Bosh; Chuck Hayes
9. Joakim Noah: Erick Dampier (in his prime); Brian Cardinal
10. Spencer Hawes: Chris Bosh; Michael Sweetney
11. Acie Law: Chauncey Billups; Speedy Claxton
12. Thaddeus Young: Caron Butler; DeShawn Stevenson
13. Julian Wright: Scottie Pippen; Marvin Williams
14. Al Thornton: Josh Howard; Alan Anderson

Those in bold are imo very good estimates of the players' upper/lower limits

Yi Jianlian is already much more athletic and explosive than Dirk has ever been, not to say he is better than Dirk, they have totally different types of game, but he will more likely turn out to be the next Chris Bosh imo.

Corey Brewer will be a great defender but imo more like a lock down defender like Iguodala or Pippen rather than Marion (not to take anything away from Marion), also he is more likely to average 5rpg, 5apg, 2spg instead of 11rpg, 2bpg, so I think in terms of skills and playing style Iguodala or Pippen would be better molds.

Brandon Wright: He's got tremendous potential but I just can't see him turning into a SKILLED player like Bosh, imo his game and explosiveness makes him a lot more likely to become an opportunistic player like a longer version of Marion or a rich man's Kenyon Martin.
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:11 PM   #27
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Default Re: what is the best & worst outcome for every 2007 rookie?

I don't think you can call J. Wright's best case Boris Diaw, because he has the physical capabilities to be better

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Old 09-24-2007, 02:11 PM   #28
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Default Re: what is the best & worst outcome for every 2007 rookie?

Josh McRoberts
Best case: Tom Gugliotta
Worst case: Danny Ferry (without the jumpshot range)
Most likely: Christian Laettner
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:11 PM   #29
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Durant isn't similar to T-Mac or Odom. He is much taller than T-Mac but he doesn't have the passing skills or athletisism T-Mac does. He also is a better shooter than T-Mac. Anyway.

Greg Oden- Best Case: Patrick Ewing, Worst Case: Sam Bowie
Kevin Durant- Best Case: More athletic Larry Bird without the point guard type passing skills, Worst Case: Rashard Lewis
Al Horford- Best Case: Carlos Boozer: Worst Case: Fabricio Oberto
Mike Conley Jr.- Best Case: Tony Parker: Worst Case: Tyronn Lue
Jeff Green- Best Case: Richard Jefferson, Worst Case: Darius Miles
Yi Jianlian- Best Case: Dirk Nowitzki, Worst Case: Nikoloz Tskitishvili
Corey Brewer- Best Case: poor man's Scottie Pippen, Worst Case: James Posey
Brandan Wright- Best Case: Larry Nance, Worst Case: Tyrus Thomas
Joakim Noah- Best Case: David Lee, Worst Case: Anderson Varejao
Spencer Hawes- Best Case: Brad Daugherty, Worst Case: Raef Lafrentz
Acie Law- Best Case: Sam Cassell, Worst Case: Derek Fisher
Thaddeus Young- Best Case: Paul Pierce, Worst Case: Deshawn Stevenson

Julian Wright- Best Case: Boris Diaw, Worst Case: Antoine Wright
Al Thornton- Best Case: Caron Butler, Worst Case: Deshawn Stevenson
Sean Williams- Best Case: Amare Stoudemire or Ben Wallace, Worst Case: Jason Collins

Those ones in bold look very good to me, James Posey is a great mold for Corey Brewer in terms of style, Brewer will be better though.
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:13 PM   #30
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Brandon Wright: He's got tremendous potential but I just can't see him turning into a SKILLED player like Bosh, imo his game and explosiveness makes him a lot more likely to become an opportunistic player like a longer version of Marion or a rich man's Kenyon Martin.
Disagreed. He isn't some raw super-athlete he showed some nice moves last year. Bosh is a good comparison for his upside.
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