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Old 09-23-2007, 02:49 PM   #1
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Default Official #90 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH

#89 - Shawm Kemp. When the “Reign Man” came through the lane, watch put. Kemp had some of the most powerful and viscous jams of all-time. He was the face of Seattle in the early to mi-90’s. In his seasons with the Sonics, he was one of the top power forwards in the game, making 5 All-Star appearances and 3 All-NBA 2nd teams. He helped them get to the NBA Finals in the 1996 season and went 6 games with the Bulls. After his years with Cleveland he went other places for short runs before calling it quits.

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ISH 100 Greatest NBA Players of All-Time
1. Michael Jordan
2. Wilt Chamberlain
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
4. Earvin 'Magic' Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Bill Russell
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Oscar Robertson
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Tim Duncan
11. Jerry West
12. Julius Erving
13. Moses Malone
14. Elgin Baylor
15. Bob Pettit
16. John Havlicek
17. Karl Malone
18. George Mikan
19. David Robinson
20. Isiah Thomas
21. Charles Barkley
22. John Stockton
23. Bob Cousy
24. Kobe Bryant
25. Rick Barry
26. Scottie Pippen
27. Clyde Drexler
28. Gary Payton
29. Willis Reed
30. Patrick Ewing
31. Allen Iverson
32. Walt Frazier
33. Elvin Hayes
34. George Gervin
35. Jason Kidd
36. Dave Cowens
37. Kevin Garnett
38. Bob McAdoo
39. Nate Thurmond
40. Wes Unseld
41. Kevin McHale
42. Dolph Schayes
43. Dominique Wilkins
44. Bill Walton
45. Sam Jones
46. Kevin Johnson
47. Dennis Rodman
48. Dirk Nowitzki
49. Steve Nash
50. Billy Cunningham
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51. Nate 'Tiny' Archibald
52. 'Pistol' Pete Maravich
53. Tracy McGrady
54. Hal Greer
55. Jerry Lucas
56. Robert Parish
57. Earl 'the Pearl' Monroe
58. Bernard King
59. Artis Gilmore
60. Alex English
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61. James Worthy
62. Joe Dumars
63. Bill Sharman
64. Reggie Miller
65. Paul Arizin
66. Sidney Moncrief
67. Dave DeBusschere
68. Dave Bing
69. David Thompson
70. Lenny Wilkens
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71. Adrian Dantley
72. Bob Lanier
73. Neil Johntson
74. Walt Bellamy
75. Vince Carter
76. Spencer Haywood
77. Ray Allen
78. Dennis Johnson
79. Paul Pierce
80. Dikembe Mutombo
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81. Connie Hawkins
82. Chris Webber
83. Chris Mullin
84. Grant Hill
85. Mitch Richmond
86. Dan Issel
87. 'Jumpin' Joe Fulks
88. Alonzo Mourning
89. Shawn Kemp

Players to consider:
Mark Aguirre
Maurice Cheeks
Mel Daniels
Cliff Hagan
Anfernee Hardaway
Tim Hardaway
Tommy Heinsohn
Gus Johnson
Marques Johnson
Bobby Jones
Lafayette Lever
Ed MaCauley
George McGinnis
Mark Price
Ben Wallace
Paul Westphal


#89 Greatest Player Voting
Shawn Kemp = 5 votes
Mark Price = 4 votes
Maurice Cheeks = 2 votes
Tommy Heinsohn = 2 votes
George McGinnis = 1 vote
Mark Aguirre = 1 vote
Mel Daniels = 1 vote
Anfernee Hardaway = 1 vote
Tim Hardaway = 1 vote
Sam Cassell = 1 vote


Official #89 NBA Player Of All Time According To ISH

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Old 09-23-2007, 03:03 PM   #2
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Once again...I vote for Mark Price...

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Mark Price was an excellent point guard who made alot of teams regret not going after him in the first round when they let him slip to the second..Price, the Cavs greatest point guard of all-time, was known as one of the league's most consistent shooters. He finished his career with a 90.4% free throw shooting percentage, placing him as the league's all-time leader in this statistical area, and a 40% three-point field goal shooting percentage.
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:03 PM   #3
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Anfernee "Penny" Hardaway, one of my favorites of all time.

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Old 09-23-2007, 03:07 PM   #4
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No way Kemp was better than Penny. I vote for Penny Hardaway
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:14 PM   #5
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No way Kemp was better than Penny. I vote for Penny Hardaway
No way Penny and/or Kemp were better then George McGinnis.


GEORGE McGINNIS


George McGinnis was one of the most feared forwards in the 1970s. Starting his career in the ABA with Indiana, he helped them win a title his second year out wining playoff MVP and two years later was ABA MVP. He then joined the Philadelphia 76ers before the ABA folded and was named All-NBA 1st team for his work. The next season he was joined by his ABA rival Dr. J to form one of the best forward duos in the business as they went to the NBA Finals before losing. He joined high scoring Denver for 2 seasons and was back to All-Star form before finishing his career where he started it, in Indiana.


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-Career high points per game 29.5
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:17 PM   #6
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Tim Bug.
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:29 PM   #7
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Sam Cassell. Championship rings, clutch shooting, longevity, over 16 and 6 for his career...one of the best pull-up jump shots...changed the way guards play the game today (drawing fouls on pump fakes and then flopping).
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No way Penny and/or Kemp were better then George McGinnis.


GEORGE McGINNIS


George McGinnis was one of the most feared forwards in the 1970s. Starting his career in the ABA with Indiana, he helped them win a title his second year out wining playoff MVP and two years later was ABA MVP. He then joined the Philadelphia 76ers before the ABA folded and was named All-NBA 1st team for his work. The next season he was joined by his ABA rival Dr. J to form one of the best forward duos in the business as they went to the NBA Finals before losing. He joined high scoring Denver for 2 seasons and was back to All-Star form before finishing his career where he started it, in Indiana.


-6 ABA/NBA All-Star Teams
-ABA MVP
-ABA Playoff MVP
-2 All-ABA 1st Team
-1 All-ABA 2nd Team
-1 All-NBA 1st Team
-1 All-NBA 2nd Team
-Career high points per game 29.5
-Career high rebounds per game 14.7
-Career high assist per game 6.2
-Career high steals per game 2.7
-Career high FG% .50

Were those career high numbers in the ABA or NBA?
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Sam Cassell. Championship rings, clutch shooting, longevity, over 16 and 6 for his career...one of the best pull-up jump shots...changed the way guards play the game today (drawing fouls on pump fakes and then flopping).
Earl Monroe?
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:34 PM   #10
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Were those career high numbers in the ABA or NBA?
Both, his ABA high was 29+ and his NBA high was 23+
His rebounding high was (ABA) 15 and (NBA) 12.6
Assist high was (ABA) 6.3 and (NBA) 5

3 Time All-Star in both ABA and NBA and made first teams in both ABA and NBA.

McGinnis > Penny
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Earl Monroe?

I meant that he may have insipried some of today's nba players who use this tactic that are too young to have watched Earl Monroe...like Dywane Wade.
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Hmm Mark Price was alot better than Sam Cassell and Penny Hardaway imo...Don't start bringing up All-Star appearances, you can make a case for Sam Cassell because of his championships but Penny, Psh...
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I'm going back to Anfernee Hardaway.
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Both, his ABA high was 29+ and his NBA high was 23+
His rebounding high was (ABA) 15 and (NBA) 12.6
Assist high was (ABA) 6.3 and (NBA) 5

3 Time All-Star in both ABA and NBA and made first teams in both ABA and NBA.

McGinnis > Penny

ABA stats aren't as impressive as NBA stats. Penny was a clutch player who played very well in the playoffs even early in his career. He helped the Magic reach the finals in just his second year.
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:46 PM   #15
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ABA stats aren't as impressive as NBA stats. Penny was a clutch player who played very well in the playoffs even early in his career. He helped the Magic reach the finals in just his second year.
McGinnis actually played in the ABA when it was a tough league. Dr. J, Gervin, Moses Malone, Rick Barry, Gilmore, Marvin Barnes, Daniels were all in the ABA at this time. He won an MVP in the league also.


And if you don't wanna give credit to the ABA, in the NBA, he was no slouch either. All-NBA First team his first season in the league, his second season, All-NBA 2nd and helped the 6ers to the Finals. He was a better scorer then Penny in the NBA, better rebounder and for PF, was a great passer and a 3 Time NBA All-Star
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