I definitely believe that the four horseman in the Atlantic Division (Knicks,Celtics,Raptors, and Nets) will all make the playoffs. The Heat, Magic, and Cavs (I believe) will not be better than any of those four teams.
first of all is top 5 in the east the goal? as a fan, imo it better not be. not at this cap, not with this franchise, definitely not with franchises history and definitely not for the price of the tickets. 2002 was suppose to be our rebuilding years, five years later can anyone really say we're much better?
secondly, focusing on winning? what have the knicks been focusing on otherwise. is it just me or are the fans not holding this team to a higher standard. maybe i'm bitter about what this team has turned into, but someone has to make it clear that the current standard (no matter how it compares to last year) isn't acceptable.
as far as Randolph and Curry goes, let's first see them on the floor for a bit, and finally, let's see how they work with David Lee, because with David Lee this team suffers big time. If he stays healthy, then I can't disagree that this is a playoff team, which unfortunately means Isiah gets another year.
I think the Knicks will be in the postseason for sure, and i feel like the players know they have more than enough talent to go far, so I don't expect them to be complacent with just making the playoffs. Even Curry and Marbury said just making the playoffs now isn't good enough....
I think Miami is going to really struggle this year. I see a lot of people put them in their top 4 or 5, but with the offseason they've had I think they'll be fortunate to make the playoffs...Shaq's divorce, Shaq's health, Shaq's conditioning, Wade's health, JWill's health, losing Posey and Kapono, Antoine Walker's conditioning (Pat Riley just said he doesn't think he'll be ready till January - ouch!), can Dorrel Wright perform at a satisfactory level at the 3 (he'll be starting there, and he only averaged about 18 minutes a game), a weak bench (every spot except center), and are Pat Riley's methods wearing thin with the players?....way too many questions for me to put them in the top tier teams in the East, especially after they got they're asses whooped by Chicago in the first round
Those seeds cant happen because division champs lock up the top 3 seeds.
Actually, the current system allocates the 3 division champs a "top 4" seed in the conference. Last year for example, the lowly 44 win Heat still got the 4th seed. The Central's Det, Cle, and Chi, were seeded 1, 2, and 5.
Last edited by Good Old Willy : 10-11-2007 at 01:49 PM.
can we agree on a number of games they have to win to make it. I'm thinking they need at least 45 games at a minimum. The problem then becomes, do we see them winning that many...it's probably too early to tell, but if defensively they don't get more compact, I'd worry. I don't offense will be the problem.
BTW watch David Lee have a great year, even if he's in the 3 spot this year. He just gets better and better.
Although the Knicks SHOULD make the playoffs -- before I would predict anything for this season, I would like to see if the Knicks can limit their turnovers, play better defense, win against weak teams and win back to back games.
Last year, they beat themselves with lack of effort, inconsistency, turnovers and loses to losing teams they should have easily beaten.
If the Knicks can improve on those areas and stay healthy there is no limit on how far they can go!
I see them going 42-40 this year. I hope they make the playoffs. It'll be a big blow to organization if they don't. How many years in a row have they not made it? They are young and have gained talent. Let's see them play Boston who in my opinion will need all the Geritol they can get. They should be able to out run them.
1. I see them going 42-40 this year. I hope they make the playoffs. It'll be a big blow to organization if they don't. How many years in a row have they not made it? They are young and have gained talent.
2. Let's see them play Boston who in my opinion will need all the Geritol they can get. They should be able to out run them.
Let's see what happens.
1. The Knicks won 23 and then 33 in the last two seasons. Consequently 42 or 43 wins seems reasonable this year. I hope they will do even better. But they may squeak into the postseason with that.
2. Don't sell Boston short! If they stay healthy, with their Big 3, KG, Pierce and Ray Allen -- they should be a formidable team. They have one of the best players in basketball in Garnet and two all stars in pierce and Allen. I see the Celtics likely to make the playoffs. But, especially in the playoffs, their problem may be a lack of depth on the bench.