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Old 10-22-2007, 02:24 PM   #31
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Then why do you want to get rid of Jamison and get Bargs if Jamison is so much better?
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:35 PM   #32
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Because I'd like to get a PG who shoots three's and passes (Hinrich) alongside Bargs, who will also be shooting three's, thus getting twice the number of three's in the trade.

Not like I was proposing Jamison for Bargs straight up here Silent. I would never do that. They're similar players, Jamison is just better at damn near everything. And by a solid margin too.

Although I do like Bargs center eligibility, and I definitely understand why you value it.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:48 PM   #33
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At least you made a little sense there. And in a way explains why I wouldn't make the deal. Kirk and Bargs with the threes. And don't be surprised if by the end of this season you change your mind about Jamison being better at everything. One is on the way up, one on the way down. How many offers have you had for Jamison?
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:08 PM   #34
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Four. Turned down Kidd/Sheed for him. I'm expecting a breakout year actually. I know it seems like his career is in a downward spiral, unless you check his numbers from the playoffs last season.

I'd venture a guess at 28/14/4/5 being reasonable numbers for him. On 72% shooting of course.

The reason I proposed to you wasn't only because you had a player I wanted, but because you had enough 3's to take the loss. Jamison/Redd/Jax/Villa and you'd still be fine. Eh, you don't want to do it, you don't want to do it. There was reasoning though. I'm not always completely illogical.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:20 PM   #35
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I never said you were completely illogical, only somewhat illogical. Those are some glovesque projections on his stats. You need to spend less time in the short bus league.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:43 PM   #36
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Hey, if I didn't spend my time there, I wouldn't have learned to make accurate projections from the very best. Just out of curiosity, what do you think of the squad from that league. I think it's ok, still needs a bit of work though. Don't tear me a knew one btw, my ego's fragile.

PG - Kidd
SG - Maggette
G - Tinsley
SF - Butler
PF - Jamison
F - AK
C - Big Ben
C - Nene
Util - Hughes
Util - JR Smith
Bn - Garbo
Bn - Francis
Bn - Magloire
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:45 PM   #37
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Well, IMO the fairness of this trade really depends on how much one thinks Bargnani (& Rondo to a lesser extent) will improve..

Because last year Jamison was indeed light years ahead of Bargs as a fantasy player. This year? Personally, Bargs is just nice for the threes in C eligibility, I haven't really seen anything new added to his game in the preseason games that I watched to convince me he's going to have a leapfrog in improvement. Who knows, maybe it was just because Bosh wasn't around to draw the attention.

But considering that Silent drafted Bargs in every league, I think its going to be difficult to pry Bargs away from him : (evidence that he's very high on him heh).
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:59 PM   #38
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High, but with reasonable expectations. I expect some improvement, but not really anything leapfrog, which would be nice. With starting 2 centers in every league, there is a premium on getting a decent one. He's not going to be a big rebounder, maybe the occasional double digit. But he will get 3's, a good ft% and probably decent fg%. Any blocks and steals will be gravy. Now Jamison will probably get similar numbers, even with Arenas and Butler, but don't discount Butler's numbers going up some. But there are more chances for that kind of production from the pf than the center selection. Plus Bargs can go on the roster as sf,pf, c. I like the 3 position eligibility. Isn't that why folks were high on Diaw till he stunk it up last year?
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:14 PM   #39
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Hey, if I didn't spend my time there, I wouldn't have learned to make accurate projections from the very best. Just out of curiosity, what do you think of the squad from that league. I think it's ok, still needs a bit of work though. Don't tear me a knew one btw, my ego's fragile.

PG - Kidd
SG - Maggette
G - Tinsley
SF - Butler
PF - Jamison
F - AK
C - Big Ben
C - Nene
Util - Hughes
Util - JR Smith
Bn - Garbo
Bn - Francis
Bn - Magloire

For your ego, I like your starting forwards, pg and sg.
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:09 PM   #40
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Interested i na AK47 for Bogut package swap?
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Old 10-23-2007, 03:17 PM   #41
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:17 AM   #42
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^edit, that's what he said.
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That's what Ced said.
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