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Old 10-21-2007, 02:17 PM   #1
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Default great knicks blog

i don't know how many of you have seen this, but check this out.
http://www.cosellout.com/
They have a very good blog on Isiah Thomas

here's one of the articles

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Pop Quiz: Who has averaged the LEAST amount of points during the 2006-2007 NBA Season?

A) Michael Redd
B) Gilbert Arenas
C) Ray Allen
D) Entire 2003 Knicks Roster


Media Backlash: No backlash here, mostly deafening silence which speaks volumes. Context matters. The media’s reluctance to bring up the HISTORICALLY pathetic roster that Isiah Thomas inherited while lambasting him is the classic “lie by omission”. Hey Media – Do Your Homework!: The answer is D. Go ahead, comb through every single NBA roster from December 2003 and compare it to the Knicks one assembled by previous GM Scott Layden. The results are astonishing:

· NINE of those players are OUT OF THE LEAGUE in 2007
· There is NOT ONE PLAYER from that Knicks roster that is still currently a STARTER in the NBA today while virtually every other 2003 NBA team still has a minimum of three starters still in the league[1].
· Only ONE player averaged more than 5 points per game in 2006-2007[2].


To paraphrase Charles Barkley, superb San Antonio GM R.C. Buford had Tim Duncan to build around, two-time GM of the year Bryan Collangelo had Chris Bosh and a #1 draft pick to build around… Isiah had Michael Doleac to build around. Thomas was left with no young budding talent, no major trade chips, and the most expensive roster in the NBA which ruled out any thought of rebuilding through free agency. By any fair assessment, the Knicks were, at MINIMUM, a 5 year turnaround project. By acting quickly and decisively dumping players before their trade stock completely plummeted Thomas has given Knicks fans a hopeful future within his first three years.





“Inherit the Windstorm” - Sizing up The Knicks 2003 Roster:


1. Roster Review: Their only great player (Allan Houston) had a bad contract and worse knee which soon forced his retirement. In 2003, young players like Frank Williams, Maceij Lampe, and Mike Sweetney were all thought to have significant future potential, but Isiah quickly traded them all before the secret became public knowledge. Williams and Lampe are now out of the league, and Sweetney may join them any day now. Their only trade chips of any value were aging Kurt Thomas and Antonio McDyess, not exactly Kobe-enticers. The rest of the roster was a collection of overpaid and over-the-hill Howard Eisleys, Charlie Wards, and Shandon Andersons.



2. Worse than an Expansion Franchise?: Yes. Much worse. Before the 2004 expansion Charlotte Bobcats ever played a single game, they had a far superior roster that included Emeka Okafor, Gerald Wallace, Jason Kapono, Brevin Knight, and Matt Carroll. Most were young budding talent acquired through the expansion draft. The Bobcats also had the lowest payroll, no expectations to win right away, and the freedom to lose big and stockpile draft picks without criticism.



3. Worse than the 1999 Bulls?: No. About the same.Yes, you would have to go back to the year after Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman left the Bulls to find an equally horrific roster in the NBA. This team, led by Toni Kukoc in 1999, averaged under 20 victories for the next SIX seasons. Read that again please. Those years of misery enabled the Bulls to compile nine top 7 draft picks. It would be 7 seasons before the Bulls would taste the playoffs and 10 seasons before they could be considered title contenders (this coming year). After 3.5 years Isiah has already built an exciting young team that was on target to make the playoffs last year before their team was hit by injuries to three of its top five players. And while Bulls GM John Paxson has received plenty of journalistic praise, one also has to salivate at the thought of what Isiah Thomas would do with nine top 7 draft picks.



4. Worst Roster in All of Sports?: Even though the COSELLOUT crack staff hasn’t put in the work, the guess here is a resounding YES! Go back to every basketball, baseball, football, and hockey team in 2003 and see if you can find a roster that has 60% of its team out-of-the league and not a single starter. Lets us know if we are wrong or even close to wrong.


Final Analysis: Early in his tenure Thomas remarked: “No team has ever had to rebuild from this altitude where we started”. While crystal clear to Thomas, this concept was never understood by those who were paid to write about him. Thomas has delivered a young promising team in three years – about half the time that would be expected.
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:58 PM   #2
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Being one of the few Zeke defenders in this board, i feel vindicated.
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Old 10-21-2007, 10:46 PM   #3
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This article although has truth it is bogus.

It is basically saying that since Zeke had a worse roster to work with he "turned it around".

I say, "No he didn't".

They went from a team of guys who were gonna fall out of the NBA in three years anyway, to a talented mismatch of players who have yet to compliment each other.

Who by the way don't play defense or protect the basketball.

I don't know which is better.

That team had alot of undesireables, so does this one.

But what do I know.
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:39 AM   #4
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I don't know which is better.

That team had alot of undesireables, so does this one.

But what do I know.
So you're saying 9 players on this team won't play in the NBA in four years, and not one will be a starter?
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:02 PM   #5
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So you're saying 9 players on this team won't play in the NBA in four years, and not one will be a starter?

What I said is what you quoted.

The were a lot of undesireables on the team then, just like now.
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