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Old 11-06-2007, 12:29 PM   #31
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They might be stars there, but they aren't going to do anything this season (which I suppose makes sense, considering that Beasley at least is just going to jump after this year).

Beasley knows he is going to jump after this year.
Walker would've jumped last year if he didnt blow out his knee.Hes a lock to jump this year.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:29 PM   #32
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I really like the first Derrick Rose mix...that sh!t is awesome...
watch the highlight of his first game for Memphis
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:30 PM   #33
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Had Rose played for Bruce Weber, he would have been a much better player.
Example: Deron Williams, and he didn't have anywhere near the hype Rose has around him right now coming out of HS.
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^^Caliparri can't?

Dajuan Wagner would be great if not for issues out of his control
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or SG's with some passing skill (OJ Mayo & Derrick Rose).


Derrick Rose is 6'4, and a poor shooter. He's also a excellent pure point guard , with a pass first mentality, great court vision, and the abilty to split the D and kick it out...why would that suggest a SG in any way?
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:46 PM   #36
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^^Caliparri can't?

Dajuan Wagner would be great if not for issues out of his control
We'll never know will we?
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:47 PM   #37
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You're kidding me right?

Bill Walker's team?
Walker is an athletic freak but he is option 2 on that team like Augustin was option 2 for Texas

Its Beasley's team,the guy who recruited him is his Head Coach

Did you see Rose play last night?(hes NBA ready)

You mean the same dude that recruited everyone on the team? The same guy that recruited Bill Walker? Bill Walker was a great player for them before he got hurt. It would be stupid to ask him to take a backseat for a freshman that is not that much better than him, if at all.

Secondly, Rose played against a horrible team. Good job on that. It's like watching Kobe play against Valparaiso, of course he's gonna look amazing.
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We'll never know will we?
so other than Williams

who else has Weber produced?:

Dee Brown

Best PG school has been Arizona for the past decade
even Shakur was a good PG but very very highly underrated
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so other than Williams

who else has Weber produced?:

Dee Brown

Best PG school has been Arizona for the past decade
even Shakur was a good PG but very very highly underrated
Luther Head. And Weber has only been coaching at Illinois since 2003.
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You mean the same dude that recruited everyone on the team? The same guy that recruited Bill Walker? Bill Walker was a great player for them before he got hurt. It would be stupid to ask him to take a backseat for a freshman that is not that much better than him, if at all.

Secondly, Rose played against a horrible team. Good job on that. It's like watching Kobe play against Valparaiso, of course he's gonna look amazing.
I watched Rose play amazing against Oak Hill Academy,99% of them go to top division 1 schools

Huggins recruited Walker and Bennett,thats it.
Beasley was a by product of Huggins bringing over the guy who was recruiting him,Huggins knew that it would net Beasley
If the guy who recruited Beasley would've took a job at Rutgers then Beasley would've went there too
Huggins has recruited Walker since Walker was a freshman,Cincy was in on Walker because he played in Cincinnati
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Luther Head. And Weber has only been coaching at Illinois since 2003.
Luther Head?

You're telling me Weber developed Luther Head into a good PG
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Into a good guard, yes. No one had Head projected to be in the NBA till his senior season. Tell me who Calipari has produced?
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Derrick Rose is 6'4, and a poor shooter. He's also a excellent pure point guard , with a pass first mentality, great court vision, and the abilty to split the D and kick it out...why would that suggest a SG in any way?
I've only seen Rose in short stints. However, I didn't see a PG in those few minutes.

All I seen was a 6'4" kid with no real jumper who used excellent quickness to get into the lane and then pass.

He didn't control tempo offensively or defensively and wasn't especially accurate with his passes.


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Bayless is the second coming of Arenas down at Arizona,but he'll make much more of an impact....

Rose
Lawson
Collison
Gordon
Steele
Those guys could've been lottery picks last year and bumped Law to the 2nd round

the 2nd class
Augustin
James
Weaver
Neitzel
Singletary
Chalmers
I don't consider Arenas a PG. Hell, I don't even view him as a combo guard. He's a straight up SG in my view.

I will say that you are one of the few people to put up all the potential prospects. Most people only bring up Rose, OJ Mayo, Bayliss, Eric Gordon, and Tywan Lawson.

I think the difference in view is that you are looking at the guys who may come out for 2008 while I'm looking at the guys who will be likely to come out.
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iono.Antonio Burks?
Dajuan Wagner?

Tell me how many top recruits actually have made it to actually going to Memphis?
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:03 PM   #45
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I've only seen Rose in short stints. However, I didn't see a PG in those few minutes.

All I seen was a 6'4" kid with no real jumper who used excellent quickness to get into the lane and then pass.

He didn't control tempo offensively or defensively and wasn't especially accurate with his passes.


I don't consider Arenas a PG. Hel,, I don't even view him as a combo guard. He's a straight up SG in my view.

I will say that you are one of the few people to put up all the potential prospects. Most people only bring up Rose, OJ Mayo, Bayliss, Eric Gordon, and Tywan Lawson.

I think the difference in view is that you are looking at the guys who may come out for 2008 while I'm looking at the guys who will be likely to come out.

Likely to come out:
Mayo-LOCK
Lawson-LOCK
Shved-LOCK
Collison
Rose
Gordon
James-LOCK

there goes the underclassmen
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