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Old 07-25-2006, 06:59 PM   #1
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If you were Kupchack, is there 1 player you would trade for Kobe straight up if salaries matching didn't matter?
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i would absolutely trade him for Labron (already as good, 5 years younger).
Wade would be a much tougher call.
no one else.
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Old 07-25-2006, 07:10 PM   #3
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If you were Kupchack, is there 1 player you would trade for Kobe straight up if salaries matching didn't matter?



Hell nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!: no:

he is the best player in the NBA and he is just about to enter his prime right now.
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Lakers aint goin nowhere with Kobe. But he aint worth Wade or Lebron
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Career highlights
3-time NBA Champion: 2000, 2001, 2002
8-time NBA All-Star: 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006
Has started in each of his appearances
8 consecutive appearances. (No All-Star game in 1999 due to league-wide lock-out)
NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2002
NBA Scoring Champion: 2006 (35.4)
8-time All-NBA Selection:
First Team: 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006
Second Team: 2000, 2001
Third Team: 1999, 2005
6-time All-Defensive Selection:
First Team: 2000, 2003, 2004, 2006
Second Team: 2001, 2002
2-time NBA regular-season leader, points: 2003 (2,461), 2006 (2,832)
2-time NBA regular-season leader, field goals made: 2003 (868), 2006 (978)
NBA regular-season leader, field goals attempted: 2006 (2,173)
NBA regular-season leader, free throws made: 2006 (696)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team: 1997
NBA All-Star Slam Dunk Champion: 1997
2nd highest single-game point total in NBA history: 81, set on January 22, 2006 vs. the Toronto Raptors. (The record is 100 points set by Wilt Chamberlain on March 2, 1962.)
7th highest single-season point total in NBA history: 2,832, 2005-06 (Top 6 held by Wilt Chamberlain and Michael Jordan)
9th highest single-season scoring average in NBA history: 35.4, 2005-06 (Top 8 held by Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, Michael Jordan, and Rick Barry)
Career triple-doubles (as of 2006): 14 [26]
Career statistics (as of 2006): 23.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 4.5 apg, 0.61 bpg, 1.50 spg, .451 FG%, .336 3FG%, .834 FT% [27]
Career playoff statistics (as of 2006): 22.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 4.5 apg, 0.73 bpg, 1.34 spg, .438 FG%, .329 3FG%, .791 FT% [28]
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NBA milestones
Youngest player in NBA history to reach:
10,000 points (24 years, 193 days), set March 5, 2003 vs. the Indiana Pacers.
14,000 points (26 years, 240 days), set April 20, 2005 vs. the Portland Trail Blazers.
15,000 points (27 years, 136 days), set January 6, 2006 vs. the Philadelphia 76ers.
16,000 points (27 years, 192 days), set March 3, 2006 vs. the Golden State Warriors.
Youngest player to start an NBA game (18 years, 158 days), making his first start for the Los Angeles Lakers on January 28, 1997.
Youngest player to start an NBA All-Star Game (19 years, 175 days), making his debut at the 48th annual All-Star Game at Madison Square Garden on February 8, 1998.
Youngest NBA All-Star Slam Dunk champion (18 years, 175 days), after winning the contest at the 1997 NBA All-Star Weekend.
Became the first player ever to outscore the opposing team through three quarters since the advent of the 24-second shot clock after scoring 62 points in three quarters of play on December 20, 2005 vs. the Dallas Mavericks.
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NBA records (8)
Most three-point field goals made, one game: 12 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics; first player to reach this plateau; tied with Donyell Marshall). [29]
Most three-point field goals made, one half: 8 (March 28, 2003 vs. Washington Wizards; tied with 5 players). [30]
Most consecutive three-point field goals made, one game: 9 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics; first player to reach this plateau; tied with Latrell Sprewell and Ben Gordon). [31]
Most free throws made, one quarter: 14 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks; tied with 5 players). [32] [33]
Most free throws attempted, one quarter: 16 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks; tied with 6 players). [34] [35]
Most All-Star Game three-point field goals made, all-time: 11 (1997–present; tied with Tracy McGrady, Ray Allen, and Jason Kidd). [36]
Holds shot-clock era records for:
Greatest percentage of own team's point total (66.4% of the Lakers' 122 points)
Greatest percentage of both teams' combined point total (35.8% of the Lakers' and Raptors' 226 points)
(both set on January 22, 2006 vs. the Toronto Raptors).
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Lakers franchise records (30)
Points
Season: 2,832 (2005-06; 7th highest NBA single season scoring output of all-time)
Game: 81 (January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors) [37]
Half: 55 (2nd half, January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors). [38]
Quarter: 30 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks) [39]
Overtime, playoffs: 12 (May 4, 2006 vs. Phoenix Suns) [40]
Scoring average, month: 43.4 (January 2006)
Games scoring 40 points or more, season: 27 (2005-06) [41]
Consecutive games of 40 points or more: 9 (February 6–February 23, 2003) [42]
Consecutive games of 20 points or more, season: 62 (December 9, 2005–April 19, 2006)
Field goals made
Half: 18 (2nd half, January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors). [43]
Quarter: 11 (February 2, 1999 vs. Seattle SuperSonics). [44]
Field goals attempted
Half: 28 (tied with Elgin Baylor; 2nd half, January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors). [45]
Free throws made
Game: 23 (twice, most recently on January 31, 2006 vs. New York Knicks). [46]
Half: 16 (January 30, 2001 vs. Cleveland Cavaliers) [47]
Quarter: 14 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks) [48]
Quarter, playoffs: 11 (tied with 3 players; May 8, 1997 vs. Utah Jazz). [49]
Consecutive: 62 (January 11–22, 2006). [50]
Free throws attempted
Quarter: 16 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks). [51]
Three-point field goals made
All-time: 799 (1996–present) [52]
Game: 12 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics). [53]
Half: 8 (1st half, March 28, 2003 vs. Washington Wizards). [54]
Quarter: 6 (2nd quarter, January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics). [55]
Without a miss, game: 7 (January 6, 2006 vs. Philadelphia 76ers). [56]
Consecutive: 9 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics). [57]
Three-point field goals attempted
All-time: 2,379 (1996–present) [58]
All-time, playoffs: 410 (1996–present) [59]
Season: 518 (2005-06) [60]
Game: 18 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics). [61]
Steals
Half: 6 (tied with 3 players; February 13, 2006 vs. Utah Jazz). [62]
Quarter, playoffs: 3 (tied with 6 players; May 17, 1999 vs. San Antonio Spurs). [63]
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Personal records
Second-most points scored in a regular season game in NBA history: 81 (January 22, 2006) (the most is 100 by Wilt Chamberlain).
One of only two players in NBA history to score 80-plus points in a single game
One of only two players in NBA history to score 35-plus points per game for 13 consecutive games (the other is Wilt Chamberlain).
One of only three players in NBA history to score 40-plus points per game for 9 consecutive games (the others are Wilt Chamberlain and Michael Jordan).
One of only three players in NBA history to score 45-plus points per game for 4 consecutive games (the others are Elgin Baylor and Wilt Chamberlain), and the first to accomplish it since Chamberlain, who did it in November of 1964.
One of only three players in NBA history to average 40-plus points per game for an entire month at least once (the others are Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor)
One of only two players in NBA history to average 40-plus points per game for an entire month on three separate occasions (40.6 ppg in February 2003, 43.4 ppg in January 2006 , 40.1 in April 2006) (the other is Wilt Chamberlain).
Only player in NBA history with at least 2,800 points and 180 three-point field goals made in one season.
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Other awards and achievements
1996 Naismith High School Player of the Year [1]
1996 Gatorade Circle of Champions High School Player of the Year [1]
1996 McDonald's High School All-American [1]
1996 USA Today All-USA First Team [1]
1995 Adidas ABCD Camp Senior MVP [1]
Named to the USA Today All-Time All-USA First Team in 2003. [1]
USA Today and Parade Magazine's 1996 National High School Player of the Year with a seasonal average of 30.8 points, 12.0 rebounds, 6.5 assists, 4.0 steals and 3.9 blocks per game. [2]
Led Lower Merion High School to a 31-3 record, including 27 straight wins, and the PIAA Class AAAA state title as a senior (1996).[2]
The all-time leading scorer in Southeastern Pennsylvania school history with 2,883 points. [2]

Kobe is not worth Lebron or Wade. LoL
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Old 07-25-2006, 07:56 PM   #6
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Career highlights
3-time NBA Champion: 2000, 2001, 2002
8-time NBA All-Star: 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006
Has started in each of his appearances
8 consecutive appearances. (No All-Star game in 1999 due to league-wide lock-out)
NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2002
NBA Scoring Champion: 2006 (35.4)
8-time All-NBA Selection:
First Team: 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006
Second Team: 2000, 2001
Third Team: 1999, 2005
6-time All-Defensive Selection:
First Team: 2000, 2003, 2004, 2006
Second Team: 2001, 2002
2-time NBA regular-season leader, points: 2003 (2,461), 2006 (2,832)
2-time NBA regular-season leader, field goals made: 2003 (868), 2006 (978)
NBA regular-season leader, field goals attempted: 2006 (2,173)
NBA regular-season leader, free throws made: 2006 (696)
NBA All-Rookie Second Team: 1997
NBA All-Star Slam Dunk Champion: 1997
2nd highest single-game point total in NBA history: 81, set on January 22, 2006 vs. the Toronto Raptors. (The record is 100 points set by Wilt Chamberlain on March 2, 1962.)
7th highest single-season point total in NBA history: 2,832, 2005-06 (Top 6 held by Wilt Chamberlain and Michael Jordan)
9th highest single-season scoring average in NBA history: 35.4, 2005-06 (Top 8 held by Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, Michael Jordan, and Rick Barry)
Career triple-doubles (as of 2006): 14 [26]
Career statistics (as of 2006): 23.9 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 4.5 apg, 0.61 bpg, 1.50 spg, .451 FG%, .336 3FG%, .834 FT% [27]
Career playoff statistics (as of 2006): 22.9 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 4.5 apg, 0.73 bpg, 1.34 spg, .438 FG%, .329 3FG%, .791 FT% [28]
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NBA milestones
Youngest player in NBA history to reach:
10,000 points (24 years, 193 days), set March 5, 2003 vs. the Indiana Pacers.
14,000 points (26 years, 240 days), set April 20, 2005 vs. the Portland Trail Blazers.
15,000 points (27 years, 136 days), set January 6, 2006 vs. the Philadelphia 76ers.
16,000 points (27 years, 192 days), set March 3, 2006 vs. the Golden State Warriors.
Youngest player to start an NBA game (18 years, 158 days), making his first start for the Los Angeles Lakers on January 28, 1997.
Youngest player to start an NBA All-Star Game (19 years, 175 days), making his debut at the 48th annual All-Star Game at Madison Square Garden on February 8, 1998.
Youngest NBA All-Star Slam Dunk champion (18 years, 175 days), after winning the contest at the 1997 NBA All-Star Weekend.
Became the first player ever to outscore the opposing team through three quarters since the advent of the 24-second shot clock after scoring 62 points in three quarters of play on December 20, 2005 vs. the Dallas Mavericks.
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NBA records (8)
Most three-point field goals made, one game: 12 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics; first player to reach this plateau; tied with Donyell Marshall). [29]
Most three-point field goals made, one half: 8 (March 28, 2003 vs. Washington Wizards; tied with 5 players). [30]
Most consecutive three-point field goals made, one game: 9 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics; first player to reach this plateau; tied with Latrell Sprewell and Ben Gordon). [31]
Most free throws made, one quarter: 14 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks; tied with 5 players). [32] [33]
Most free throws attempted, one quarter: 16 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks; tied with 6 players). [34] [35]
Most All-Star Game three-point field goals made, all-time: 11 (1997–present; tied with Tracy McGrady, Ray Allen, and Jason Kidd). [36]
Holds shot-clock era records for:
Greatest percentage of own team's point total (66.4% of the Lakers' 122 points)
Greatest percentage of both teams' combined point total (35.8% of the Lakers' and Raptors' 226 points)
(both set on January 22, 2006 vs. the Toronto Raptors).
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Lakers franchise records (30)
Points
Season: 2,832 (2005-06; 7th highest NBA single season scoring output of all-time)
Game: 81 (January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors) [37]
Half: 55 (2nd half, January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors). [38]
Quarter: 30 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks) [39]
Overtime, playoffs: 12 (May 4, 2006 vs. Phoenix Suns) [40]
Scoring average, month: 43.4 (January 2006)
Games scoring 40 points or more, season: 27 (2005-06) [41]
Consecutive games of 40 points or more: 9 (February 6–February 23, 2003) [42]
Consecutive games of 20 points or more, season: 62 (December 9, 2005–April 19, 2006)
Field goals made
Half: 18 (2nd half, January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors). [43]
Quarter: 11 (February 2, 1999 vs. Seattle SuperSonics). [44]
Field goals attempted
Half: 28 (tied with Elgin Baylor; 2nd half, January 22, 2006 vs. Toronto Raptors). [45]
Free throws made
Game: 23 (twice, most recently on January 31, 2006 vs. New York Knicks). [46]
Half: 16 (January 30, 2001 vs. Cleveland Cavaliers) [47]
Quarter: 14 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks) [48]
Quarter, playoffs: 11 (tied with 3 players; May 8, 1997 vs. Utah Jazz). [49]
Consecutive: 62 (January 11–22, 2006). [50]
Free throws attempted
Quarter: 16 (3rd quarter, December 20, 2005 vs. Dallas Mavericks). [51]
Three-point field goals made
All-time: 799 (1996–present) [52]
Game: 12 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics). [53]
Half: 8 (1st half, March 28, 2003 vs. Washington Wizards). [54]
Quarter: 6 (2nd quarter, January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics). [55]
Without a miss, game: 7 (January 6, 2006 vs. Philadelphia 76ers). [56]
Consecutive: 9 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics). [57]
Three-point field goals attempted
All-time: 2,379 (1996–present) [58]
All-time, playoffs: 410 (1996–present) [59]
Season: 518 (2005-06) [60]
Game: 18 (January 7, 2003 vs. Seattle SuperSonics). [61]
Steals
Half: 6 (tied with 3 players; February 13, 2006 vs. Utah Jazz). [62]
Quarter, playoffs: 3 (tied with 6 players; May 17, 1999 vs. San Antonio Spurs). [63]
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Personal records
Second-most points scored in a regular season game in NBA history: 81 (January 22, 2006) (the most is 100 by Wilt Chamberlain).
One of only two players in NBA history to score 80-plus points in a single game
One of only two players in NBA history to score 35-plus points per game for 13 consecutive games (the other is Wilt Chamberlain).
One of only three players in NBA history to score 40-plus points per game for 9 consecutive games (the others are Wilt Chamberlain and Michael Jordan).
One of only three players in NBA history to score 45-plus points per game for 4 consecutive games (the others are Elgin Baylor and Wilt Chamberlain), and the first to accomplish it since Chamberlain, who did it in November of 1964.
One of only three players in NBA history to average 40-plus points per game for an entire month at least once (the others are Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor)
One of only two players in NBA history to average 40-plus points per game for an entire month on three separate occasions (40.6 ppg in February 2003, 43.4 ppg in January 2006 , 40.1 in April 2006) (the other is Wilt Chamberlain).
Only player in NBA history with at least 2,800 points and 180 three-point field goals made in one season.
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Other awards and achievements
1996 Naismith High School Player of the Year [1]
1996 Gatorade Circle of Champions High School Player of the Year [1]
1996 McDonald's High School All-American [1]
1996 USA Today All-USA First Team [1]
1995 Adidas ABCD Camp Senior MVP [1]
Named to the USA Today All-Time All-USA First Team in 2003. [1]
USA Today and Parade Magazine's 1996 National High School Player of the Year with a seasonal average of 30.8 points, 12.0 rebounds, 6.5 assists, 4.0 steals and 3.9 blocks per game. [2]
Led Lower Merion High School to a 31-3 record, including 27 straight wins, and the PIAA Class AAAA state title as a senior (1996).[2]
The all-time leading scorer in Southeastern Pennsylvania school history with 2,883 points. [2]

Kobe is not worth Lebron or Wade. LoL
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Old 07-25-2006, 09:37 PM   #7
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Lakers aint goin nowhere with Kobe. But he aint worth Wade or Lebron

what the hell you are doing on our board? whats does a knicks fan know about kobe. you guys are suppose to have trash playes like strawberry, fancis and ugly fat curry and james. go back to your forum boy....and dont u ever get back here.......
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uuuuuh no. i can see someone making a case for lebron. but wade? HELL NO! kobe's the man.
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Old 07-25-2006, 10:15 PM   #9
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KNICKS fans know whats up......Last season in the Garden, the "Knicks fans" were chanting MVP,MVP,MVP when Kobe got the ball....this was after the 81 game.

So knowledgable Knicks know what Kobe's value is.....

I personally would trade any player on the Lakers if it meant we would win a championship.....no one player is greater than the Lakers organization.

But I am a Kobe fan as well
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give DWade his props. in his second season w aging Shaq, he truly CARRIED his team to the championship. he was personally responsible for crushing the mighty Pistons and then taking Dallas. sick numbers across the board when it counted most. Kobe is still my boy.
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Old 07-25-2006, 10:45 PM   #11
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Don't let a Knick Fan or anyone else chap your hide.. they are just trying to get a rise out of you.

Now, it is a very debateable question as to whether I would trade Kobe for Lebron. Nobody else would be on my list. I don't think its an easy answer... part of me leans toward Lebron, but Kobe's accomplishments and skills cannot be ignored. Wow, thats a tough one!
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Old 07-25-2006, 11:14 PM   #12
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Lakers aint goin nowhere with Kobe. But he aint worth Wade or Lebron

HOW ABOUT THIS !!! THE ONLY WAY I'LL TRADE KOBE IS TO SEND HIM TO THE NEW YORK KNICKS FOR OWNERSHIP OF SAID TEAM,TITLE TO MSG, AND CASH CONSIDERATIONS.

OH YEAH,
MR. THOMAS WILL BE WAIVED!!!!!!
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Old 07-25-2006, 11:31 PM   #13
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if i plan on rebuilding, maybe for lebron and no one else. but if i think we can win now, then no.
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Default The ultimate difference between lebron and Kobe

Kobe and Lebron have a lot of the same style.

But the one thing Kobe has that lebron lacks is the will. Sure lebron wants to win. heck everyone wants to win. But the only person to let his game do the talking is Kobe. People crap talk him all the time and not only will he screw u over but he will make sure ur confidence is down for the longest time if not forever.

Thats the thing. Kobe will kill ur spirit.

Lebron can score 30-40 on any given night. But when it comes for crunch time, what has he usually done? deffered to teammates and they made the winning shots for him and yet he survived much criticism over this season.

But soon enough itys going to catch up with him. He has a team full of shooters. what if he isnt in that same situation anymore?

Kobe > Lebron (or wade)
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right, kobe is way better than lebron. that's why i said only if i'm rebuilding, considering lebron is 8 years younger than kobe. if bynum becomes a superstar, he and lebron will sure give us more titles compared to a kobe-bynum partnership.
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