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Old 04-24-2013, 09:56 AM   #1
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Default Use a team salary to make the best possible Europeans only team with it.

Often labelled as being soft, often as being team oriented, often as shooters, often as having great fundamentals… I really don’t think we can generalize on how European players play. There is no point in making a 12 players roster with the best NBA Europeans and saying they would be contenders if not even the Lakers could afford paying their salaries. So, as the tittle says, pick an NBA team salary and use it to create the best possible European only team (allowed to use players with European citizenship). In order to know their salaries, please use players that are actually playing in the NBA.

Which aspects improve and which other get worse?

NBA teams salaries in million dollars for 2012/13:

Lakers (100.1); Brooklyn (87.6); Orlando (87.4); Miami (83.8); Philadelphia (82); New York (80); Portland (75.8); Boston (75.5); Chicago (74.8); Clippers (73.1); San Antonio (70.2); Golden State (70.1); Dallas (69.8); Minnesota (69.6); Oklahoma (68.9); Detroit (68.8); Denver (68); Atlanta (66.7); Washington (66.3); Toronto (66.2); Indiana (65.7); Utah(65.7); New Orleans (64.3); Memphis (63); Milwaukee (62.4); Phoenix (60.2); Charlotte (58.1); Sacramento (54.4); Cleveland (54.1);Housont (51.9)

NBA Europeans player salaries in million dollars for 2012/13:

L. Scola (4.1); P. Prigioni (0.5); M. Teletovic (3); J. Veselý (3.2);T . Splitter (3.9) N. Batum (10.5); (2.2);N. de Colo (1.4); Boris Diaw (4.5); E. Fournier (1.4); M. Gelabale (0.3); I. Mahinmi (4); J. Noah (11.3); T. Parker (12.5); J. Petro (3.5); M. Pietrus (1); K. Séraphin (1.8); R. Turiaf (1.1); Z. Pachulia (5.2); C. Kaman (8); D. Nowitzki (21); T. Ohlbrecht (0.1); L. Deng (13.3); J. Freeland (2.6); B. Gordon (12.4); B.J. Mullens (2.2); K. Koufos (3); A. Bargnani (10); M. Belinelli (2); D. Gallinari (9.5); A. Biedrins (9); L. Kleiza (4.6); D. Motiejunas (1.4); J. Valanciunas (3.5); N. Pekovic (4.8); N. Vucevic (1.7); M. Gortat (7.3); A. Kirilenko (9.8); T. Mozgov (3.1); A. Shved (3.2); D. Milicic (1.2); S. Pavlovic (1.2); V. Radmanovic (1.3); G. Dragic (7.5); B. Udrih (7.4); J. Calderón (10.6); V. Claver (1.3); M. Gasol (13.9); P. Gasol (19); S. Ibaka (2.2); R. Rubio (3.7); J. Jerebko (4.5); J. Taylor (0.6); T. Sefolosha (3.6); O. Asik (5); E. Iliasova (7.9); E. Kanter (4.3); H. Turkoglu (11.4); K. Fesenko (0.9); V. Kravtsov (1.5)

If anyone is missing or mistaken let me know, I’ll edit.
Being my first thread, I would like to apologize in advance for any English mistake you may find in it.

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Old 04-24-2013, 09:58 AM   #2
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Default Re: Use a team salary to make the best possible Europeans only team with it.

Example 1, Lakers (100.1M)

C: M. Gasol (13.9)/N. Pekovic (4.8) = 18.7M
PF: D. Nowitzki (21)/S. Ibaka (2.2)/J. Valanciunas (3.5) = 26.7M
SF: D. L. Deng (13.3)/ Gallinari (9.5) = 22.8M
SG: N. Batum (10.5)/T. Sefolosha (3.6)/E. Fourneir (1.4) = 13.9M
PG: T. Parker (12.5)/R. Rubio (3.7 )= 16.2M
Total = 99.9M

I think it would be much deeper and polyvalent, also less vulnerable to unexpected injuries. It could go form offensive to defensive mode quite easily.

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Example 2, Houston (51.9M):

C: N. Pekovic (4.8)/N. Vucevic (1.7)/V. Kravtsov (1.5) = 8M
PF: S. Ibaka (2.2)/ Valanciunas (3.5) = 5.7M
SF: D. Gallinari (9.5)/T. Sefolosha (3.6) = 13.1M
SG: N. Batum (10.5)/ M. Belinelli (2) = 12.5M
PG: G. Dragic (7.5)/R. Rubio (3.7)/P. Prigioni (0.5) = 12.7M
Total = 52M

I think they would miss someone like Harden, but would be deeper and offer more tactical options to their coach.


I took top and bottom salaries as example.
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Default Re: Use a team salary to make the best possible Europeans only team with it.

We saw the Minny T Wolves this season. I don't think even Marc Gasol and Tony Parker in an all Euro team will make much of a difference.

Heck why not just bring in Real Madrid or Regal Barcelona?
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Default Re: Use a team salary to make the best possible Europeans only team with it.

Can you sort out the guards , forwards , and centers.. kinda confusing to look at..
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Default Re: Use a team salary to make the best possible Europeans only team with it.

Is that list a joke?

Who are Orlando, Portland and the Cavs paying that there salary is so high?

Props to Houston. Youngest team with the lowest salary in the L.
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Example 1, Lakers (100.1M)

C: M. Gasol (13.9)/N. Pekovic (4.8) = 18.7M
PF: D. Nowitzki (21)/S. Ibaka (2.2)/J. Valanciunas (3.5) = 26.7M
SF: D. L. Deng (13.3)/ Gallinari (9.5) = 22.8M
SG: N. Batum (10.5)/T. Sefolosha (3.6)/E. Fourneir (1.4) = 13.9M
PG: T. Parker (12.5)/R. Rubio (3.7 )= 16.2M
Total = 99.9M

I think it would be much deeper and polyvalent, also less vulnerable to unexpected injuries. It could go form offensive to defensive mode quite easily.

This would be impossible. There is no way you can get to $100 million by signing those types of contracts. Lakers made it that high by having several really large contracts. Then signing a bunch of players to the minimum.
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We saw the Minny T Wolves this season. I don't think even Marc Gasol and Tony Parker in an all Euro team will make much of a difference.

Heck why not just bring in Real Madrid or Regal Barcelona?

I disagree on Gasol and Parker not making much of a difference. Minny was cursed with injuries this season, missing their franchise player, Rubio for half a season (and recovering at least another 2 months), Roy... not a good example.

Both Barça and Madrid have important non-European players in their starting five.

Anyway thanks for replying.
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Can you sort out the guards , forwards , and centers.. kinda confusing to look at..

I'll do it tomorrow, no much time now, but the list comes from wikipedia where they are listed as C, F and G.Here is the link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...gn_NBA_players

Scola, Prigioni, Splitter, etc. have double nationalities that's why they are there.
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Is that list a joke?

Who are Orlando, Portland and the Cavs paying that there salary is so high?

Props to Houston. Youngest team with the lowest salary in the L.

I did a mistake with Cavs; edited...


I'm not sure if those salaries are correct, they all come from google search.

Orlando is still paying 20.8M for Arenas and Portland 16.4M for Roy

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This would be impossible. There is no way you can get to $100 million by signing those types of contracts. Lakers made it that high by having several really large contracts. Then signing a bunch of players to the minimum.

I really don't know the system enough to say if it is possible... anyway it is clear that it would never happen. It is just a simple way to match salaries and see which kind of team you could have.
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