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Old 12-01-2007, 10:12 AM   #1
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After looking at the "Wasted Careers" thread, I got thinking, who are the greatest overachievers? One comes to mind...

"In the NBA there are chiefs and Indians. I am one of the greatest Indians"
-Robert Horry, "Slam" magazine interview after receiving seventh ring (most ever of non-Celtic players).

John Salley, Ron Harper and James Edwards are others that come to mind, anyone else care to add?
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:17 AM   #2
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Steve Kerr with 5 rings. A great player especially with his 3 pointer, but also with great luck to play for the Bulls and Spurs.
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:33 AM   #3
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After looking at the "Wasted Careers" thread, I got thinking, who are the greatest overachievers? One comes to mind...

"In the NBA there are chiefs and Indians. I am one of the greatest Indians"
-Robert Horry, "Slam" magazine interview after receiving seventh ring (most ever of non-Celtic players).

John Salley, Ron Harper and James Edwards are others that come to mind, anyone else care to add?

i don't think that's the definition of overachiever for me...

overachiever is someone who wasn't looked to be good, yet became good. maybe someone who went undrafted yet became a great player. or someone who succeeded despite subpar athletic gifts.

so for my understanding of the word, robert horry isn't an overachiever. he's just a role player with a really unique and weird role - to make series and title-winning shots. overachiever is IMO something else, guys like ben wallace or brad miller who made all-star despite going undrafted, or chuck hayes who starts at nba PF at 6'6''...

i'd even call jordan himself an overachiever in some sense, just because of his best ever work ethics and that no-one-saw-it-coming element...
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:37 AM   #4
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i don't think that's the definition of overachiever for me...

overachiever is someone who wasn't looked to be good, yet became good. maybe someone who went undrafted yet became a great player. or someone who succeeded despite subpar athletic gifts.

so for my understanding of the word, robert horry isn't an overachiever. he's just a role player with a really unique and weird role - to make series and title-winning shots. overachiever is IMO something else, guys like ben wallace or brad miller who made all-star despite going undrafted, or chuck hayes who starts at nba PF at 6'6''...

i'd even call jordan himself an overachiever in some sense, just because of his best ever work ethics and that no-one-saw-it-coming element...

Nice comeback! I am a huge Big Ben fan, so going undrafted and being all-star starter does fit the criteria!
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:40 AM   #5
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Gil comes to mind. I mean, nobody thought he could score like this. Maybe if we start calling his defense 0 he can get better there too?
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:06 PM   #6
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How about Steve Nash? Anyone not a Suns fan think his play was worth MVP's?

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Old 12-01-2007, 02:09 PM   #7
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John Stockton. People prob. thought he could end up being a decent player, but he ended up becoming an all-time legend through his immense work ethic.
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:28 PM   #9
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How about Steve Nash? Anyone not a Suns fan think his play was worth MVP's?

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worth or not, no one saw it coming. guy with average physical capabilities quite suddenly becoming best PG in the league at age 29 (i know, system and all, but still) can rightfully be called a late bloomer AND an overachiever.
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Well, there's alot of overachieves you've named already, but some others I have to throw in are Kobe Bryant, Michael Redd, and Kevin Martin. I think they all fit your criteria. However, when I think of an overachiever, I think of a guy with a deficiency that should normally keep him from achieving in the NBA, but he is able to overcome that and still become effective. I'll make a small list of guys I can think of.

Ben Wallace (height; offensive ability)
Chuck Hayes (height majorly)
Earl Boykins (height)
Charles Barkley (I never was able to see him play, but isn't he like 6'5" or 6'6"? That is a lot of height to overcome and still be considered one of the best PF's in the history of the game)
Larry Johnson (again, short but a great NBA player)
Allen Iverson (very short SG, but still able to be one of the best all-time scorers)

There's a bunch of others, so feel free to add to the list.
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:15 PM   #11
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Old 12-01-2007, 03:36 PM   #12
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Manu,Parker,J.Howard,Gilbert,Boozer,Redd...any low draft pick or non drafted player(Ben)
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ron harper actually was a star before becoming a roleplayer... I mean scoring 23 points a game as a rookie does that for you.
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Gilbert Arenas. Although he is using his chance to do useless blogs (which I used to find very funny, but then he over-went with that too ).
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