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Old 12-03-2007, 01:19 AM   #1
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Default Why do you celebrate Christmas if you don't believe in Jesus.

I know a tremendous amount of people that follow the Christmas tradition,
but don't believe in Jesus.

I have a good idea of most of the answers....
"Because that's just the way it is. It's a tradition."

If you're gonna sit there and tell me that the BIBLE is a make believe
fairy-tale, But yet you have the Christmas spirit...
Well then why are you apart of this tradition... presents? shopping?
just a holiday from work to visit family?

Seems like that would be a logical answer.



I'll just say this... after I saw Zietgiest (spelling)... I no longer
celebrate December 25th as the birth of Christ.

But I still believe in Christ.

For most people now-a-days it's X-mas. Is this the case with you?
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:24 AM   #2
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Default Re: Why do you celebrate Christmas if you don't believe in Jesus.

presents

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Old 12-03-2007, 01:31 AM   #3
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i'm in it for the holiday fruitcake...
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:52 AM   #4
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Default Re: Why do you celebrate Christmas if you don't believe in Jesus.

The "Christmas" tradition was actually borrowed/stolen/adapted from the Pagan celebration of Winter Solstice, which included many of the elements of the holiday that are still practiced today: 12 days, December 25th, gift-exchanging, holly and mistletoe, etc.
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:53 AM   #5
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I know a tremendous amount of people that follow the Christmas tradition,
but don't believe in Jesus.

I have a good idea of most of the answers....
"Because that's just the way it is. It's a tradition."

If you're gonna sit there and tell me that the BIBLE is a make believe
fairy-tale
, But yet you have the Christmas spirit...
Well then why are you apart of this tradition... presents? shopping?
just a holiday from work to visit family?

Seems like that would be a logical answer.



I'll just say this... after I saw Zietgiest (spelling)... I no longer
celebrate December 25th as the birth of Christ.

But I still believe in Christ.

For most people now-a-days it's X-mas. Is this the case with you?

It was created to bring people together. I celebrate Christmas because my Dad is Christian. I believe that Christ was a great man, but not the son of God. Also I guess we celebrate it to have a family holiday together with our cousins, aunt and uncle.
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:55 AM   #6
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It was created to bring people together. I celebrate Christmas because my Dad is Christian. I believe that Christ was a great man, but not the son of God. Also I guess we celebrate it to have a family holiday together with our cousins, aunt and uncle.

Okay Moses. fair enough.
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:57 AM   #7
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because the bottles start pourin and i get gifts out of no where
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Old 12-03-2007, 02:14 AM   #8
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Default Re: Why do you celebrate Christmas if you don't believe in Jesus.

Family, friends, presents.

Even when I was christian, I didnt really care about it being christ's "birthday." My parents might make me go to church but I'll just refuse.
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presents

conformity

I don't celebrate it, but I would have to go with what he says...
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Old 12-03-2007, 02:30 AM   #10
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for the free stuff man
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I believe that Christ was a great man, but not the son of God. Also I guess we celebrate it to have a family holiday together with our cousins, aunt and uncle.

I don't quite understand how people can think that Jesus existed and was a great man, but not the son of God.

If you believe the things in the bible, or in your case other references to Jesus as well, how can you belive that he isn't the Savior?

I can understand if you think he's a lunatic or a nutcase, but how can you believe he's just a good man?

He CLAIMED he was the Son of God sent to save us. So he's either crazy, or he's right.
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Old 12-03-2007, 02:49 AM   #12
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I don't quite understand how people can think that Jesus existed and was a great man, but not the son of God.

If you believe the things in the bible, or in your case other references to Jesus as well, how can you belive that he isn't the Savior?

I can understand if you think he's a lunatic or a nutcase, but how can you believe he's just a good man?

He CLAIMED he was the Son of God sent to save us. So he's either crazy, or he's right.



They call me the conspiracy theorist... But obviously they believe
religion is the greatest conspiracy ever,... and they don't even realize it.

So Christ = Conspiracy.

That's what the moral of this thread has come to.
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Old 12-03-2007, 02:50 AM   #13
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I don't quite understand how people can think that Jesus existed and was a great man, but not the son of God.

If you believe the things in the bible, or in your case other references to Jesus as well, how can you belive that he isn't the Savior?

I can understand if you think he's a lunatic or a nutcase, but how can you believe he's just a good man?

He CLAIMED he was the Son of God sent to save us. So he's either crazy, or he's right.

I do not believe he claimed this. All gospels depicting him to be in any way earthly were changed, or new ones were made making him out to be holy, in an attempt to bring together people. They even modified some pagan ceremonies (such as Christmas, as someone already mentioned) as a way of bringing the people together. He was popular when he was preaching but his cousin, John the Baptist, was much more popular. It wasn't until after his crucification that he became this very popular, god-like figure.
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Old 12-03-2007, 02:54 AM   #14
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I do not believe he claimed this. All gospels depicting him to be in any way earthly were changed, or new ones were made making him out to be holy, in an attempt to bring together people. They even modified some pagan ceremonies (such as Christmas, as someone already mentioned) as a way of bringing the people together. He was popular when he was preaching but his cousin, John the Baptist, was much more popular. It wasn't until after his crucification that he became this very popular, god-like figure.

So it all must be a conspiracy then?
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So it all must be a conspiracy then?

Perhaps.
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