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Old 09-06-2006, 11:29 PM   #16
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your not thinking objectively. getting ben wallace doesnt make the bulls contenders. period.
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Old 09-07-2006, 12:52 PM   #17
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I like the Bulls and where they are going but more than 60 wins is very tough. They do have depth but all their starters would really have to have great years. Anywhere between 50 and 55 is logical. I think 60 is a reach but in the East, you never know. It will depend on how this team will gel with the new guys, but anything is possible right now.
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Old 09-07-2006, 06:02 PM   #18
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your not thinking objectively. getting ben wallace doesnt make the bulls contenders. period.

the bulls have the deepest team in the leage
the bulls are contenders because of hinrich, gordon, nocioni, deng, wallace, brown, thomas, duhon, sefaloshia, sweetney
scew a superstar, the bulls play team ball
your not thinking at all getting ben wallace adds a huge precence in the lane
your going to see how better hinrich and gordan will look on the defensive end with ben inside
the fact that hes not 7-2 means nothing
the bulls had eddy and tyson and were soft as hell in the middle
bulls=contenders final wrath=sigfred and roy style limp wrist
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Old 09-07-2006, 07:14 PM   #19
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40-50 is THE BEST they will get.
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Old 09-07-2006, 07:41 PM   #20
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50 seems realistic
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:00 PM   #21
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the bulls have the deepest team in the leage
the bulls are contenders because of hinrich, gordon, nocioni, deng, wallace, brown, thomas, duhon, sefaloshia, sweetney
scew a superstar, the bulls play team ball
your not thinking at all getting ben wallace adds a huge precence in the lane
your going to see how better hinrich and gordan will look on the defensive end with ben inside
the fact that hes not 7-2 means nothing
the bulls had eddy and tyson and were soft as hell in the middle
bulls=contenders final wrath=sigfred and roy style limp wrist

no need to flame in the end there. don't be so flamin.

anyways, your dreaming. ben wallace can defend the paint ok but not against shaq, duncan, or anyone thats important. plus he wont do the double team or play zone defense so dont expect to stop wade or james. and on the offensive end you'll be playing 4 on 5 pretty much so....keep dreaming. I say you lose to the pistons in the second, as your team doesn't match up well against detroit. Thats if you can get past the cavs/wizards in the first.
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:23 PM   #22
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oh god, ben wallace makes them a lot better but he does not make them championship contenders. and only in your dreams will they win 64 games, I'm not a bulls hater I'm just stating the obvious.
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Old 09-07-2006, 11:20 PM   #23
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no need to flame in the end there. don't be so flamin.

anyways, your dreaming. ben wallace can defend the paint ok but not against shaq, duncan, or anyone thats important. plus he wont do the double team or play zone defense so dont expect to stop wade or james. and on the offensive end you'll be playing 4 on 5 pretty much so....keep dreaming. I say you lose to the pistons in the second, as your team doesn't match up well against detroit. Thats if you can get past the cavs/wizards in the first.

final wrath your constintly hatin on the bulls, what city are you from?
are you mad because they don't have a team in stick in the dirt kentucky
i don't know what you've got agaist ben
no ben can't defend shaq, noone can defend shaq
but ben will be tougher on shaq than most in the leage
ben can most definatly defend duncan
3 time defensive player of the year
ben averaged 12.9 boards a game in the past six seasons
the bulls are going to be one of the fastest teams in the leage
with ben, hinrich and gordan won't have to worry about getting boards
your gonna see a lot of fastbreak points this year
last year ben ranked 4th in the leage in rebounds per game(11.3)
ranked 10th in the leage in steals per game(1.78)
ranked 9th in the leage in blocks per pame(2.21)
ranked 1st in the leage in offensive rebounds(301.0)
ranked 1st in the leage in offensive rebounds Per Game(3.7)
ranked 5th in the leage in defensive rebounds(622.0)
ranked 6th in the leage in defensive rebounds Per Game(7.6)
ranked 4th in the leage in total rebounds(923.0)
ranked 7th in the leage in steals(146.0)
ranked 5th in the leage in blocks(181.0)
ranked 2nd in the leage in steals per turnover(1.66)
ranked 9th in the leage in offensive rebounds per 48 Minutes(5.0)
ranked 8th in the leage in defensive rebounds per 48 Minutes(10.3)
ranked 5th in the leage in ebounds per 48 Minutes(15.3)
ranked 8th in the leage in steals per 48 minutes(2.42)
ranked 7th in the leage in blocks per 48 minutes(3.01)
you don't see stats like that
you seem to think that ben wallace is just okay, thats nuts
and the 4 on 5 on offense, tyson chandler averaged 5.3 points a game last
big ben averaged 7.3 the way i see it we got better on offense
and if you get second chance shots which we will get a lot with ben then i see that as an improvement as well
ben will be a brick wall on picks and we've got sick perimiter shooting
64 wins is a lot we'll see what happens
but the bulls can make a title run this year
we're crazy young, and skiles and pax will be able to keep this squad together
the bulls have more hustle than any team hustle wins games
get ready for another six b!tches

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Old 09-08-2006, 07:17 PM   #24
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55 games, adding ben wallace can only help.
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Old 09-09-2006, 12:07 AM   #25
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no need to flame in the end there. don't be so flamin.

anyways, your dreaming. ben wallace can defend the paint ok but not against shaq, duncan, or anyone thats important. plus he wont do the double team or play zone defense so dont expect to stop wade or james. and on the offensive end you'll be playing 4 on 5 pretty much so....keep dreaming. I say you lose to the pistons in the second, as your team doesn't match up well against detroit. Thats if you can get past the cavs/wizards in the first.

I am a Bulls fan and I think your right, there is no way we are contenders just yet. You cant possibly say that we are going to win 64 games and are contenders just yet. That is how the Knick fans think and talk.

But one trade for a half decent post player, and the Bulls are right there, they are so close. But until then I reckon 48-52 wins which is good going. All they need is to trade for somebody who can drop 15 - 17 pts in the post, Shareef would be perfect since he comes off the bench now and his trade value is low.

By the way, the Bulls do match up well with the Pistons, and have given them lots of trouble recently, and by taking ben away from them and gaining his services, we match up even better with them now.
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Old 09-10-2006, 10:37 AM   #26
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All teams have chemistry. Good or Bad. Miami had good chemistry. Everybody on the team were friends of Shaq. Although Wade was the best player, Shaq was the leader. What hotheads were there? They all wanted to win. Riley is just the Greatest coach of modern day. Remeber the bowl they had in the middle of the locker room? Yeah no chemistry!
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I am a Bulls fan and I think your right, there is no way we are contenders just yet. You cant possibly say that we are going to win 64 games and are contenders just yet. That is how the Knick fans think and talk.

But one trade for a half decent post player, and the Bulls are right there, they are so close. But until then I reckon 48-52 wins which is good going. All they need is to trade for somebody who can drop 15 - 17 pts in the post, Shareef would be perfect since he comes off the bench now and his trade value is low.

By the way, the Bulls do match up well with the Pistons, and have given them lots of trouble recently, and by taking ben away from them and gaining his services, we match up even better with them now.

You are focusing on the wrong team. You need to be thinking about the team that knocked you out last year. Miami...They are better than Detroit. All Miami has to do is make the playoffs. Seeding is irrelevant to them. Look at the roster. They are not talent-wise, although wade is the 3 best player in the league hands down, but playoff game experience. Their starting five of Shaq,Haslem,Wade,Williams,Walker have YEARS of Playoff experience. The bench of Zo,Payton,Posey even Doleac are seasoned playoff players. They are not the most talented but as constructed they have the most playoff experience of any rotation on any team. That's what wins championships along with a common goal. Ben Wallace can't run or score, which is why he was so ineffective in games. Detroit won't miss him at all. He didn't fit with Flips running game. Ben is a slow down pace defender. He wont help you guys either. He needs the paint all to himself to be effective. But then again, Zo out played him last year. The running game hasn't won a championship since the Lakers with guess who Pat Riley, who just so happens OWNS, PRESIDENT, and COACH of the Miami Heat. Also rhymes with REPEAT. Detroit can win 60 without Ben. he was the only player that didn't fit. Nazr will fit in much better. He runs the floor. You have to change to a half court team for Ben to help you guys. You guys might win 50 but that's the max.
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That program is complete BS. if you had Robert Horry, Toni Kukoc, and Dikembe Mutumbo on a team, it would say the team would get 50 wins, because those guys have a history of winning.
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That program is complete BS. if you had Robert Horry, Toni Kukoc, and Dikembe Mutumbo on a team, it would say the team would get 50 wins, because those guys have a history of winning.
I agree with the Robert Horry. Toni Kokoc is some doo-doo. And why Dikembe. Even with his stellar defense he aint won nothing!!!
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