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Old 12-08-2007, 05:28 PM   #1
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Default Allen Iverson's Crossover vs. Michael Jordan's Crossover

Its a stretch to compare this particular A.I. crossover to Jordan's because of what MJ's meant, but Allen Iverson's crossover on the best player in the game should be up there with the highest. That crossover really put him on the map.

Which was better in your honest opinion???


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Old 12-08-2007, 05:35 PM   #2
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photobucket crossover>>>>AI crossover
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Old 12-08-2007, 05:38 PM   #3
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Default Re: Allen Iverson's Crossover vs. Michael Jordan's Crossover

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photobucket crossover>>>>AI crossover
What do you mean? What happened?
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Old 12-08-2007, 05:41 PM   #4
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Default Re: Allen Iverson's Crossover vs. Michael Jordan's Crossover

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Old 12-08-2007, 05:42 PM   #5
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Default Re: Allen Iverson's Crossover vs. Michael Jordan's Crossover

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Tim Hardaway
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Old 12-08-2007, 05:42 PM   #6
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Default Re: Allen Iverson's Crossover vs. Michael Jordan's Crossover

The Michael Jordan crossover doesn't work.
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Old 12-08-2007, 05:49 PM   #7
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Default Re: Allen Iverson's Crossover vs. Michael Jordan's Crossover

I don't like that MJ one. AI's crossover on MJ is legendary though.
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Old 12-08-2007, 05:51 PM   #8
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Default Re: Allen Iverson's Crossover vs. Michael Jordan's Crossover

comparing a young michael to a young iverson would be better
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Old 12-08-2007, 06:11 PM   #9
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Default Re: Allen Iverson's Crossover vs. Michael Jordan's Crossover

this is dumb!
Mike was 6,6 AI is 6,1!
The ultimate master of the perfect crossover was Tim Hardaway back in the day.
There were others like Isiah Thomas and more who did it well but in the early 90s Tim Hardaway pretty much perfected the move.
Iverson came into the league in 96 and he probably can do it as well as Timmy did but Michael Jordan and crossover move should NOT be in any discussions!
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Old 12-08-2007, 06:26 PM   #10
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Default Re: Allen Iverson's Crossover vs. Michael Jordan's Crossover

In the scenario of the thread title AI's crossover, no contest. As you can see AI never had to physically move the defender out the way.

In the case of who has the best crossover period, I'd agree with most that it's Tim Hardaway. But AI re-invented and popularized it.
The UTEP 2-step more froze a defender in his path, allowing Timmy to blow by them. It's adifficult move to do because of the timing, and the fact that you had to put the ball through your legs first.
AI's was a simple change direction. But what made it so exciting to watch was that it made the defender go the wrong direction. Seeing it done on national T.V the Reebok putting out a commercial teaching you how to do it, there was no gym in America where you didn't see it being done.
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Too bad Ai carried the ball, going with MJ here.
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Default Re: Allen Iverson's Crossover vs. Michael Jordan's Crossover

Jordan had an "old school" crossover -- he didn't really extend the ball as far out as today's players do or carry it as much on the move. But he certainly did have an effective crossover. He scrapes Dumars with it at the 35 second mark here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUXJ8Q7ehY

They showed this same play from an angle behind Jordan's back during John Thompson's interview with MJ during the 2003 ASG, and having never seen it, I was shocked that a 6'6" player could change directions that quickly. It's hard to tell with all the moving players closer to the camera from the above angle, but from the other angle it's amazing. I've seen him do similar to guys like Majerle and Starks as well with the same move.

I wouldn't say that it's as effective as AI's however, since 1) AI is smaller/quicker, 2) he carries it a lot more on the move, and 3) ballhandling moves like AI's "new school" crossover didn't exist back then.
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Default Re: Allen Iverson's Crossover vs. Michael Jordan's Crossover

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this is dumb!
Mike was 6,6 AI is 6,1!
The ultimate master of the perfect crossover was Tim Hardaway back in the day.
There were others like Isiah Thomas and more who did it well but in the early 90s Tim Hardaway pretty much perfected the move.
Iverson came into the league in 96 and he probably can do it as well as Timmy did but Michael Jordan and crossover move should NOT be in any discussions!

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Default Re: Allen Iverson's Crossover vs. Michael Jordan's Crossover

Tim Hardaway's crossover is better than both.
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Old 12-08-2007, 07:30 PM   #15
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Default Re: Allen Iverson's Crossover vs. Michael Jordan's Crossover

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Jordan had an "old school" crossover -- he didn't really extend the ball as far out as today's players do or carry it as much on the move. But he certainly did have an effective crossover. He scrapes Dumars with it at the 35 second mark here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUXJ8Q7ehY

They showed this same play from an angle behind Jordan's back during John Thompson's interview with MJ during the 2003 ASG, and having never seen it, I was shocked that a 6'6" player could change directions that quickly. It's hard to tell with all the moving players closer to the camera from the above angle, but from the other angle it's amazing. I've seen him do similar to guys like Majerle and Starks as well with the same move.

I wouldn't say that it's as effective as AI's however, since 1) AI is smaller/quicker, 2) he carries it a lot more on the move, and 3) ballhandling moves like AI's "new school" crossover didn't exist back then.

on 1:20, that was one of the best passes i've ever seen.
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