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Old 12-11-2007, 04:56 PM   #1
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Default Article-- Barkley Iverson feud still going strong 10 yrs later

they used to trade words pretty well back in the day. it was entertaining. this is kind of nostalgic

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By Woody Paige, ESPN
The Denver Post
12/09/2007


The Round Mound of Rebound has been ripping the Dior of Score Galore - again.

After Allen Iverson scored 51 points, with eight assists, against the Lakers and minutes before he scored 35, with 12 assists to defeat the Mavericks, Charles Barkley groused on TV that Iverson was a one-dimensional player who didn't make his teammates and team better.

This Phamous Philly Stake-in-the-Heart Pheud has been going on for almost a decade.

Barkley, the player, never cared much for Iverson, the kid.

Barkley, the commentator, still doesn't respect Iverson, the veteran.

I like both men. Why can't they just get along?

In 1999, Barkley said of Iverson: "I can't stand that guy."

Iverson said of Barkley: "He's nothing."

Oddly, on the day after a knee injury ended Barkley's career in his final appearance in Philadelphia (a game an injured Iverson curiously chose to not even show up for), he was leaving the doctor's office in Philadelphia as Iverson, recovering from a hand injury, was entering. They made nice for a few minutes.

Oddly, Barkley spent the first 8 1/2 years of his NBA career with the Philadelphia 76ers, then wanted out, and was traded. Iverson spent the first 10 1/2 years of his career with the 76ers, then wanted out, and was traded.

Oddly, Doug Moe was the head coach in Philadelphia when Barkley was traded, and was the assistant in Denver when Iverson was acquired. Moe appreciates A.I. more than he did Charles.

I don't remember a professional athlete in Denver even John Elway criticized so sharply on national television as Iverson was the other night by Barkley. Iverson's assist and steal numbers don't mean squat, and he doesn't play defense, Barkley claimed.

To be certain, without Iverson, the Nuggets were a quaint little middle-of-the-league operation.

With him, they are a valid NBA conference contender.

Shut it down, Sir Charles.

When Iverson has finished with double figures in points and assists, the Nuggets have won 16 in a row.

On a night not fit for man or beast, Iverson got another double-double as the Nuggets held off the game Sacramento Kings, 101-97.

The Nuggets finally are tied for first in the Northwest Division with the Utah Jazz. The Nuggets, in all probability, won't win the 60 victories Carmelo Anthony predicted. But they are on pace for 50-plus and have three of their next four games at home.

Just before halftime Saturday night at The Can, Iverson was fouled and sank both free throws. With only seconds remaining, he stole the ball from the Kings and was fouled again, adding two more foul shots. Just before the clock reached one minute in the fourth quarter and the Nuggets up by only three, Iverson stole the ball once more. He closed the victory with a pair of free throws.

Iverson had 23 points and 10 assists.

It's been suggested in some quarters (and some fourth quarters) that Iverson has lost a step, or three, on the court.

Compare his statistics when he was 22 and is 32.

Then, Iverson, who is a 6-footer only when he is on a footstool, averaged 22 points, 6.2 assists and 2.2 steals in 39.4 minutes a game.

Now, Iverson is averaging 25.5 points, 7.3 assists and 2.5 steals in 39.5 minutes a game.

Lost what?

Iverson's shooting percentages from the field and the free-throw line are higher than ever before, and he's playing in fifth gear, as always before. He is fourth in the NBA in scoring, 10th in assists, second in steals, tied for second in free-throw makes and is third in free-throw attempts.

When Anthony Carter returned six games ago, Iverson was relieved of handling the ball most of the time and could work to get free for his shot and his drive and his passing and defense were helped dramatically.

Iverson has averaged more than 29 points and eight assists in those six games. And he's shooting better than 50 percent from the field during the recent stretch. There were questions about The Answer during the playoff series with San Antonio. He wasn't able to escape the defense, and his shot selection was shaky. Iverson blamed himself, and nobody was disagreeing.

But Iverson is roaring, passing, stealing, defending and scoring into December this season.

Barkley ought to watch.


anyone remember Iverson's 2nd year? Barkley gave another Iverson diss in the papers leading up the Houston vs Philly game. Iverson dropped 26 pts (64%) and 15 assists to lead his team to the upset. Barkley was silent afterwards

Iverson's response to Barkley after the Dallas TNT game "I dont even worry about critics like him. I've dealt with them my whole life."

For Denver's sake, please keep insulting AI, Chuck!
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Old 12-11-2007, 05:29 PM   #2
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Default Re: Article-- Barkley Iverson feud still going strong 10 yrs later

this reminds me of last year when gs played dallas.. chuck didnt shut up the whole time about how dallas was going to wake up and "pound them little midgets" in the paint.. we all know the rest.

hey chuck, can you insult stromile swift for me? thanks.
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Old 12-11-2007, 05:43 PM   #3
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Default Re: Article-- Barkley Iverson feud still going strong 10 yrs later

Too bad Iverson was a low percentage selfish chucker for the majority of his career in Philly.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:14 PM   #4
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Default Re: Article-- Barkley Iverson feud still going strong 10 yrs later

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Too bad Iverson was a low percentage selfish chucker for the majority of his career in Philly.

Somebody likes Chuck's Chocolaty Balls in their mouth.
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Too bad Iverson was a low percentage selfish chucker for the majority of his career in Philly.
Anyone that disagrees with this is an idiot. Iverson's a chucker. Nothing more. He got to the Finals when the East was at its most embarrassingly weakest.
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Default Re: Article-- Barkley Iverson feud still going strong 10 yrs later

Guys like Iverson aren't going to go out and really create controversy like they could, worried about the media backlash. I'd like to see Barkley go at Gilbert Areneas. That would be entertaining.
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Default Re: Article-- Barkley Iverson feud still going strong 10 yrs later

Charles Barkley is KONEX.
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Guys like Iverson aren't going to go out and really create controversy like they could, worried about the media backlash. I'd like to see Barkley go at Gilbert Areneas. That would be entertaining.
Iverson's easier to hate on because of his immature persona.
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Default Re: Article-- Barkley Iverson feud still going strong 10 yrs later

Wow, I had no idea this feud existed before reading this. Weird how Barkley criticizes AI like that, must be something real personal.
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:42 PM   #10
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Default Re: Article-- Barkley Iverson feud still going strong 10 yrs later

Barkley is funny, I love the way he talks so much. It's hilarious when he gets proven wrong.

And the people calling AI a selfish chucker really need to stop looking at him as if this is his rookie year.
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Default Re: Article-- Barkley Iverson feud still going strong 10 yrs later

Iverson is a great player but I don't like him, probably because of the way he is off the court. Like him as a player though lol. Anyways here are his stats of his philly years so you guys can be the judge:

Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
96-97 PHI 76 74 40.1 0.416 0.341 0.702 1.5 2.6 4.1 7.5 2.1 0.3 4.43 3.10 23.5
97-98 PHI 80 80 39.4 0.461 0.298 0.729 1.1 2.6 3.7 6.2 2.2 0.3 3.05 2.50 22.0
98-99 PHI 48 48 41.5 0.412 0.291 0.751 1.4 3.5 4.9 4.6 2.3 0.2 3.48 2.00 26.8
99-00 PHI 70 70 40.8 0.421 0.341 0.713 1.0 2.8 3.8 4.7 2.1 0.1 3.29 2.30 28.4
00-01 PHI 71 71 42.0 0.420 0.320 0.814 0.7 3.1 3.8 4.6 2.5 0.3 3.34 2.10 31.1
01-02 PHI 60 59 43.7 0.398 0.291 0.812 0.7 3.8 4.5 5.5 2.8 0.2 3.95 1.70 31.4
02-03 PHI 82 82 42.5 0.414 0.277 0.774 0.8 3.4 4.2 5.5 2.7 0.2 3.49 1.80 27.6
03-04 PHI 48 47 42.5 0.387 0.286 0.745 0.7 3.0 3.7 6.8 2.4 0.1 4.35 1.80 26.4
04-05 PHI 75 75 42.3 0.424 0.308 0.835 0.7 3.3 4.0 7.9 2.4 0.1 4.59 1.90 30.7
05-06 PHI 72 72 43.1 0.447 0.323 0.814 0.6 2.6 3.2 7.4 1.9 0.1 3.44 1.70 33.0
06-07 PHI 15 15 42.7 0.413 0.226 0.885 0.5 2.3 2.7 7.3 2.2 0.1 4.40 1.40 31.2

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Default Re: Article-- Barkley Iverson feud still going strong 10 yrs later

That column forgot to mention that both players made the finals as the number 1 man and both lost respectively

Some of Barkley's predictions are whack.

I didnt like how he said "Iverson passes when every avenue for scoring has been closed."

when Iverson makes difficult passes, maybe he is trying to make his guys better.

I dont understand why big men hate him so much, doesn't Rodman have things to say about iverson too?
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That column forgot to mention that both players made the finals as the number 1 man and both lost respectively

Some of Barkley's predictions are whack.

I didnt like how he said "Iverson passes when every avenue for scoring has been closed."

when Iverson makes difficult passes, maybe he is trying to make his guys better.

I dont understand why big men hate him so much, doesn't Rodman have things to say about iverson too?

Sometimes former NBA players just like to bash current NBA players for no reason...jealousy maybe.

As far as Rodman, in his first book, he talked about Iverson copying his tattoos, and how he had no tattoos at Georgetown.
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Somebody likes Chuck's Chocolaty Balls in their mouth.

For Iverson to say anything about a superior player like Chuck is flat out disrespectful. Chuck can laugh at Iverson's career 42 FG%.
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Anyone that disagrees with this is an idiot. Iverson's a chucker. Nothing more. He got to the Finals when the East was at its most embarrassingly weakest.

Not to mention he played with the DPOY, 2 great rebounders, many great defenders, the coach of the year and the 6th man of the year.
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