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Old 12-12-2007, 11:45 AM   #31
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That'snot simple enough... sometimes you have to take your punishment to show that a move like that is NOT warranted nor appreciated, especially something of that magnitude.
So if you're a player on the opposing team what do you do, shove Horford whose head is clearly no longer in the game (if you see any at the right angle he's definitely shaken after Ford hit the floor, which I think you pointed out). It doesn't prove anything.
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:09 PM   #32
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Respect to Horford!
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:18 PM   #33
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1) No disciplinary action. Unless I missed something on the replay, there was no extra shove and hand motion that would considered "unnatural" that would make TJ fall. Yeah he got head and not ball, but very hard to see the tape -- even without Horford's contrite reaction -- and see intent.

2) What was j.Smith's dad doing there? What is his role with the Hawks?
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Old 12-12-2007, 02:02 PM   #34
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Here's a longer version of the injury. It was taken out of the game so you actually see Sam run up and curse. I think he said "What the fack was that?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyJkeuJ6RTM
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Old 12-12-2007, 02:10 PM   #35
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Maybe there is a suspension. He had no shot at the ball. At the time he hit the head, the ball was already well past him.

Unless we assume that Horford is a spaz, he went for and got TJ's head.

1 game for the contrite rookie
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Old 12-12-2007, 02:16 PM   #36
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So if you're a player on the opposing team what do you do, shove Horford whose head is clearly no longer in the game (if you see any at the right angle he's definitely shaken after Ford hit the floor, which I think you pointed out). It doesn't prove anything.


I agree. I mean you can instantly see the regret on Horford's face after the play. What good does it do to jump into a rookie's face who is already visibly upset at himself and what happened? The team did the right thing by instantly showing concern for Ford and not about their "toughness" image. Do you really expect teams to be looking at the video and talking about how no one stepped up for Ford?
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Old 12-12-2007, 02:30 PM   #37
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Has the standard for NBA behavior been set this low?

What Horford did was what any human being with a shred of decency would do - go and check on the guy that he sent to the floor and make sure he's okay, especially a guy with a history like Ford's. I mean, yeah, it was a classy thing to do, but is the image of the NBA that bad that a guy who checks on another guy he potentially seriously, seriously hurt is an aberration?

Exactly. He put the man on a stretcher into the hospital on a play nowhere near the ball, and potentially for all he knew may have ended his career with the history Ford has with his spine. He damn well *better* get his ass to the hospital, at the least.
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Old 12-12-2007, 02:32 PM   #38
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Um, how about you not just wildly swing at a guy's head if you're trying to foul him? Just grab his arms or something, thus eliminating the need for the whole injury, stretcher, ambulance, hospital and merry little visit...

Of course not, then you wouldn't have the jerks come in here after the "classy" visit proclaiming Horford is the greatest human being ever and proceeding to buy 200 of his jerseys
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Old 12-12-2007, 02:37 PM   #39
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I agree. I mean you can instantly see the regret on Horford's face after the play. What good does it do to jump into a rookie's face who is already visibly upset at himself and what happened? The team did the right thing by instantly showing concern for Ford and not about their "toughness" image. Do you really expect teams to be looking at the video and talking about how no one stepped up for Ford?

The only one acting a fool was Sam Mitchell who was restrained by the Hawks coach and JJ, Marvin Williams and Bosh, who all knew Horford just made a mistake, but didn't do it on purpose...



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Old 12-12-2007, 02:54 PM   #40
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Two things:

1. On what Johndeeregreen said, yes, the standard is that low.

2. Good thing someone wrote an article on this. Pretty sure there would've been like 4 articles was it a negative note.
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Old 12-12-2007, 03:16 PM   #41
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What kind of ****tard would NOT do that? A terrible human being, that's who.
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Old 12-12-2007, 03:20 PM   #42
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Has the standard for NBA behavior been set this low?

What Horford did was what any human being with a shred of decency would do - go and check on the guy that he sent to the floor and make sure he's okay, especially a guy with a history like Ford's. I mean, yeah, it was a classy thing to do, but is the image of the NBA that bad that a guy who checks on another guy he potentially seriously, seriously hurt is an aberration?
I was thinking the same. Not to take away from what Horford did it; was very respectful, but shouldn't visiting him be automatic? It was an obvious accident, so I would assume he'd try to contact him. But still, it's a tough league and some people wouldn't contact the person they hurt after hurting them, whether accidental or not, so props to Horford.
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Old 12-12-2007, 03:27 PM   #43
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Old 12-12-2007, 03:29 PM   #44
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1. Send opposing player to the hospital by smacking him on the head, look shocked and remorseful
2. Visit said player at the hospital afterwards, be sure to wait for him while he gets tested
3. Wait for journalist to write about it
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4. Gets proclaimed as the "classiest" NBA player ever
5. Profit!
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Old 12-12-2007, 03:33 PM   #45
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Could you imagine if Kobe did that (what Horford did)? He would still be getting bashed.
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