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Old 01-26-2008, 03:28 AM   #16
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Kevin "I break-backboards-and-have-wrist-strength-to-shoot-full-court-jumpers" Love
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Old 01-27-2008, 06:08 PM   #17
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If you need a guard, you're splitting hairs with Mayo and Rose, I'd go with Mayo. Both are gonna be superstars. This is definitely the best draft since 03.
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Old 01-28-2008, 07:22 PM   #18
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Default Re: if you had the number 1 pick who would you take

Depends on the team.

If I need a big man, then I would take Beasley.
If I need a point guard then I take Rose.
If I need an all around guard then I take Gordon.

If I am pretty solid all around or don't take team into account, I take Beasley.
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:47 AM   #19
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Depends on the team.

If I need a big man, then I would take Beasley.
If I need a point guard then I take Rose.
If I need an all around guard then I take Gordon.

If I am pretty solid all around or don't take team into account, I take Beasley.
beasley is going to be the number 1 i bet
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Old 01-29-2008, 03:13 PM   #20
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gay wont play pf thats for sure.

Um im from memphis.And gay plays the four everytime we play small ball.Ivaroni has been pushing to turn rudy into a marion type.Except rudy is bigger then marion and can play the four.Currently not as good as marion but maybe in the future.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:45 PM   #21
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There are better Big Men than Kevin Love in the draft, Beasley, Hibbert, Thabeet if he decides. I would take Beasley he just seems to have the overall package.
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Old 01-29-2008, 06:15 PM   #22
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Default Re: if you had the number 1 pick who would you take

since twolves has this almost 60% . im pretty sure theyd pick beasley if not then i feel sorry for mcfail again... coz they already have foye and mccants + brewer who can be played at pg and sg. beasley can be played at 3 and 4 .. al jeff can be played at 4and 5..
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Old 01-29-2008, 07:29 PM   #23
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Its kinda weird.Because normally you just take the best player available.But these players are all talented enough to go number one.I think ther teams will draft off need.Cause there is not that much drop off in the talent level.
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Beasly or Gordon, it depends.
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Old 01-30-2008, 02:46 AM   #25
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If I need an all around guard then I take Gordon.
Err, you want an all-around guard, so you take a guy who only scores and brings little else to the table, and is undersized for his NBA position. Alrighty.

I think this draft has the potential to be a big letdown, to be perfectly honest. It might start to show the ugly side of the one-and-dones.

Kevin Love is 2-3 inches too short (if he's even in this draft) or else he'd be Bill Walton and Elton Brand combined. Despite my dad's (mostly true) assertion that I don't like white basketball players, I absolutely love this kid and I wish he was 7 feet tall.

O.J. Mayo is too inefficient. Honestly, if you want to know who I think he'll be most like in the NBA, I'd say Ricky Davis.

Michael Beasley is a near-guarantee to be a petulant, underachieving coach-killer. I'd like to say he'll be everything Derrick Coleman should have been. Instead, he's merely going to be everything Derrick Coleman already was, bad attitude and all.

Eric Gordon is an amazing scorer, but that's all he is; he's undersized (he's not a full 6'3" in shoes) and has average-at-best handles for an NBA two-guard, much less a point guard (which he has no ability to play). He's a spoiled brat who pouts every time things don't go his way, and I think his apathy down the stretch against UConn, including throwing the ball away with under a minute left when he should have been looking to score, was a very telling sign of what his makeup is like. There's someone in the NBA already named Gordon, and this one's going to be pretty much the exact same NBA player as the one in Chicago (though IDKWTI will get to the line more often). That's who you want as your franchise guy? An undersized shooting guard who scores 21 points a game and brings nothing else to the table? He doesn't play defense, he doesn't rebound, he can't play the point at all and he's got a size disadvantage against almost everyone he goes against? That's your No. 1 pick?

DeAndre Jordan is more of an athlete than a basketball player right now (a guy averaging less than 10 and 7, only getting 21 minutes a game on a team that needs a lot more out of him, is a Top 5 pick right now? Seriously?).

I'm being somewhat overly critical to make a point: there is not a Kevin Durant or Greg Oden in the midst here. This may be a deeper group, but there aren't superstars here.

Except Derrick Rose.

I don't care if a team who thinks they already have a point guard gets the No. 1 pick. Unless the Hornets, Jazz or Suns by some act of something unholy get the No. 1 overall selection, I cannot think of an explanation as to why Gordon, Jordan, Beasley, or anyone else should be taken over Derrick Rose. He has things he needs to work on as well, but he has the capability to improve them quickly. Rose doesn't have the fatal flaws the other guys have (fatal in that it will keep them from being a true franchise guy as an NBA player; they're all capable of being good pros).

To be perfectly honest, aside from Rose I don't think there's a single guy I like as much as I liked Mike Conley last year, much less Durant and Oden. It's an outstanding freshman class as collegiates, but it's a bunch of guys who mostly should be going back to school that won't because they're all going to be taken in the Top 10.

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Old 01-30-2008, 03:47 AM   #26
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Game, for the most part I agree with you.

I love Rose. I also like Batum, but that is just a personal thing and I wouldn't expect anyone else to have him as a future star.

Beasley has grown on me some, mainly because of people bashing him in this forum. Everyone hates him because of his attitude, which may not be great, but I don't think will keep him from being a good player, and probably won't be a deciding factor on where he is drafted. I do think he could be a good scorer in the NBA, maybe along the lines of Carmelo or at least David West. Outside of Rose, I think he is the closest to a franchise player out of the other freshman.

Gordon has grown on me as well. Coming in I was ready to call him another DaJuan Wagner, but I think he has some serious scoring ability. Shooting is of course a key in the NBA, and someone as athletic as Gordon will at least get the minutes of a Keith Bogans and more likely a Ben Gordon. Teams need shooting and if he can be a consistant outside shooter, he will get plenty of minutes. Not a franchise player, but a high teens, low twenties shooter.

I love the Mayo comparison to Davis. That is right on. But that is still a decent player. Yes Davis doesn't last long with any team, and there has to be a reason, but Mayo has so much talent, he just needs to put it together the way Davis never could. He showed potential with a few 19 point seasons on bad teams, but never took his game to the next level. I think if Mayo keeps his head on straight (bad decision maker on the court, but looks like a good kid overall), and as importantly, gets good coaching, he could be that consistant 20 point scorer Davis could have become. If not, I see some good seasons, but about 14 to 18 points most years. Once again I agree, he is not a franchise type player although the talent is there for another Redd or Hamilton.

Jordan is a good, young bigman, but is not ready for the NBA. He is what I thought most of the top high school freshman these last two years would be like, decent and showing flashes of a great player, but not ready to make a huge impact even on the college game. But Jordan is 7-0 and athletic. Olowokandi was once the #1 pick. As was Kwame Brown. Jordan at least has that much potential. He is a few years away, but he is the type of project that could pay huge returns if you get him outside of the top 5. I would say he could be anywhere from another Kwame or Olowokandi to another Bynum. You just don't know with big men this young. Again, I would not bank on him being a franchise player, but I can see why he will probably go high and be looked at as the potential franchise center.

With Love, I think he will make a good player. Not a franchise player, but the way he plays could be a great starting point for a team like the Sixers that are so young and still need an identity. Similar to the way Ben Wallace helped the Pistons win a championship, Love could be the guy a team rallies around. Of course this is just stupid to try to predict since you are talking about 5 to 10 years down the road, but Love in the post with the way teams are going smaller and smaller could work. His passing ability could make him the PF version of Divac.

This of course is failing to mention Bayless, Greene, Griffin and others who could be solid starters in the NBA.

While I have just taken the positive side to Game's negatives, I agree with him that this draft might be a letdown. Everyone always expects the top picks to be the great franchise savers. I see potential in Rose and Beasley, but outside of them, you are getting specialists. Mayo could be an effective scorer, Gordon a great shooter, Jordan a good center for a running team, and Love a horse inside. Players who could be keys to championship teams as they potentially bring something very important to the overall team, but none who will lead a team. You of course want a Shaq, Duncan, or LeBron with top picks, but more likely you are getting a Manu, Haslem, or Prince in this draft. Great players, but not what you look for in the top 10.

With that said, I still think they deserve to go where everyone has them going. I am not in love with Hibbert or Hansbrough or Collison or Budinger or Arthur or Augustin enough to take them in the top 5. Sometimes the best you can get is not always want you want, but I think you are talking about a deep draft of some serious potential, and some serious talent. I see a better than usual draft when it comes to adding that extra piece to make your team click a little better and compliment the franchise player that most teams do have.
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Old 01-30-2008, 05:50 AM   #27
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying any of these guys are going to be epic busts. Just disappointing to anyone expecting any of them outside of Rose are going to be superstars. Derrick Rose, within three years, will be on par with CP3 and Deron. If not better. He's that special.

I think Beasley will be a good numbers guy. You all know what I mean by that. The stats look great, but he somehow gets them without helping his team. Think Juwan Howard in his prime (though Juwan was a good guy for the most part, and Beasley's a prick). I wish this wasn't true, because I have no personal disdain for Beasley and he's the type of power forward I absolutely love. I think he's the only other player in this draft besides Rose- with Jarryd Bayless being a possible addition- that has superstar potential.

But not much about him suggests a winner.

Gordon can blow out both his knees for all I care. If he somehow ends up a Bull, I will first throw up and then renounce all Bulls fandom and finally make the leap to being a full-blown Jazz fan (for as long as Deron is on that team). My personal hatred of him aside, however, my criticism of him as a one-dimensional player is accurate.
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:58 AM   #28
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Gordon can blow out both his knees for all I care. If he somehow ends up a Bull, I will first throw up and then renounce all Bulls fandom and finally make the leap to being a full-blown Jazz fan (for as long as Deron is on that team). My personal hatred of him aside, however, my criticism of him as a one-dimensional player is accurate.

Even Paxson has to see that Eric Gordon is basically Ben Gordon 2.0. He will not be a Bull.

That pick is most likely going to be dealt anyways for Gasol.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:10 PM   #29
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Deandre jordan is going to be a bust you can just tell
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:36 PM   #30
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Even Paxson has to see that Eric Gordon is basically Ben Gordon 2.0. He will not be a Bull.

That pick is most likely going to be dealt anyways for Gasol.
I hope you're right on both accounts. I don't think there's any possibility that Gordon actually DOES end up a Bull, I was merely saying that to illuminate how much I hate him.
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