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Old 01-25-2008, 06:37 AM   #1
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Default Will we ever see true PFs again?

During the Lakers/Spurs game the other day, Jon Barry had an excellent point about the demise of Power Forwards. It just seems like the Euro influx in the NBA has almost erradicated the traditional 4 position of being an inside bangers. I used to love watching guys like Charles Oakley, Rick Mahorn, etc play, does anyone think the 4 spot will return to this style of play?
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Old 01-25-2008, 06:42 AM   #2
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carlos boozer? would he be one?
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Old 01-25-2008, 06:57 AM   #3
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Default Re: Will we ever see true PFs again?

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Old 01-25-2008, 07:15 AM   #4
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Default Re: Will we ever see true PFs again?

This era has been great for power forwards.

These guys were all top ten in the league at one point in the last 8 years:

Chris Webber - Sac
Rasheed Wallace - Port
Dirk Nowitzki - Dal
Kevin Garnett - Minn, Bos
Carlos Boozer - Utah
Amare - Pho
Tim Duncan - SA
Kenyon Martin - NJ
Dwight Howard - Orl
Elton Brand - LAC
Ben Wallace - Det.

This is pretty much the best era ever for power forwards. Why hearken back to a bunch of old overweight cantankerous hacks.
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:30 AM   #5
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Default Re: Will we ever see true PFs again?

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Why hearken back to a bunch of old overweight cantankerous hacks.

My man JtotheIzzo with the sentence of the day. Make that the week. Pure poetry
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:32 AM   #6
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Default Re: Will we ever see true PFs again?

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Rasheed Wallace - Port
never top 10
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Carlos Boozer - Utah
never top 10
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Kenyon Martin - NJ
never top 10
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never top 10
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Ben Wallace - Det.
was a center when he was top 10

shawn marion has been a top 10 player who was also a power forward over the last 8 years, aswell as jermaine o'neal, andrei kirilenko, and karl malone.
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:35 AM   #7
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Default Re: Will we ever see true PFs again?

AK 47? Il will put some PF bofoer Andrei; somebody said Carlos Boozer, and I will put J. O'Neal, Pau Gasol and Chris Bosh over him (for example).
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:39 AM   #8
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Default Re: Will we ever see true PFs again?

hmm..obviously that gold medal you won wasn't for the subject "english"

kirilenko was a top 10 (9) player in 2004, and he was a power forward
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:51 AM   #9
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hmm..obviously that gold medal you won wasn't for the subject "english"

kirilenko was a top 10 (9) player in 2004, and he was a power forward

Top ten what?
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are you blind? a top 10 player
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Default Re: Will we ever see true PFs again?

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This is pretty much the best era ever for power forwards.

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Old 01-25-2008, 08:36 AM   #12
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are you blind? a top 10 player

A top ten player? Maybe in fantasy basketball.
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nah..real time basketball
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Default Re: Will we ever see true PFs again?

Al Jefferson and Carlos Boozer both look to be good traditional pfs for a long time. Boozer is a little short, but overall fits the stereotype of the position and Jefferson only plays some center because the T-Wolves don't have much size.
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Default Re: Will we ever see true PFs again?

I think it's more a case of "Will we ever see pure positional play again?"
In general the league is moving away from rigid positional roles, to more fluid responsibilities based of individual skill sets, and matchup based game plans. The are tons of face the basket centers (Okur, Yao, Bargs-sorta) Banger SF (Josh Smith, AK 47, Moon) and shoot first combo guards playing the 1.

Someone like Rasheed could play a given game like classic SF, PF, or Post up Center depending on who he facing, and how crazy he is feeling that day.
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