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Old 02-21-2008, 05:52 PM   #166
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Default Re: Done deal: Cavs, Bulls, and Sonics pull off 11-player deal

Chicago did well to move Wallace. They get a defender in Hughes (albeit an expensive one) but he adds to the logjam for the swingmen.

I look forward to seeing the young big men step up.
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:54 PM   #167
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Default Re: Official: Cavs acquire Big Ben, Wally, J. Smith, and D. West in 11-player deal

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1. It's DELONTE

2. This move sucks for the Bulls and Cavs.
I agree, I think the Sonics got the best of this deal.
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:54 PM   #168
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So did Larry Hughes.

Obviously they have different strength's, but nothing is guaranteed in this league. And Wally averated 20 a game a looong time ago. He's broken down now.

The only pickup I like for Cavs is West. Other than that, the jury is out.

Right, Wally averaged 20 a game as a SHOOTER. Hughes averaged 20 a game (on 40% shooting) as a SLASHER. Now tell me, with LeBron in the line-up, would you rather have a shooter or a slasher?

I love the trolls: "This is an awful deal for the Cavs. Wallets is old."

Then RBA: "10 reasons why this is a good deal, whether Wallace can produce like his Detroit days or not."

Trolls: "....Wallets is old."
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:54 PM   #169
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, at anyone who says the Cavs will miss Gooden. Dude is an airhead and doesn't mesh with what LeBron brings to the court day in and day out.

Cavs gained better pieces for how they want to play, while maintaining salary-cap flexibility.

Cavs get a B for this trade.

Does Smith have more offense than Gooden? I was mostly comparing Gooden to Wallace.
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:55 PM   #170
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good deal for chicago, dumb trade for cleveland

Yeah, losing Larry Hughes is such a crushing blow to the Cavs

That was a dumb acquisiting from day 1. The only reason they got him was because they struck out in the Ray Allen/Michael Redd sweepstakes. "We gotta get a name player!" They freaked out, fell in live with Hughes' 20 PPG on 40 percent shooting from the field, and overpaid dramatically for him.

He was never going to work out for them. Don't be fooled by his recent string of good games.
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:55 PM   #171
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I agree, I think the Sonics got the best of this deal.

I didn't expect you to say this. I thought you were going to be like the other idiot Cavs homers and proclaim this trade a "victory" for their team.
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:57 PM   #172
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Welcome to salary cap hell Lebron!

Because he wasn't in salary cap hell before this trade?
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:58 PM   #173
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I agree with almost everything you say generally.

But I think Ben is the starting 4.

Gibson the point guard.

West at the 2.

Lebron as the 3 and "point" forward.

Wally can play some 2 and 3.

i think it will be a battle between gibson,west, and wally to see who gets the starting 1-2. i dun see delonte playing 2 though, to me he was always a pg. wally has more flexibility(2,3) while gibson can play 1,2 but i think he would prefer to shoot than pass(although he's a lil short for sg 6-2). as for pf and c.big z in the middle with big ben playing the starting four and joe going to 4 and sliding ben to the backup five.

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Old 02-21-2008, 05:59 PM   #174
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Sonics win.

Gooden>Wallace.
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:59 PM   #175
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Right, Wally averaged 20 a game as a SHOOTER. Hughes averaged 20 a game (on 40% shooting) as a SLASHER. Now tell me, with LeBron in the line-up, would you rather have a shooter or a slasher?

I love the trolls: "This is an awful deal for the Cavs. Wallets is old."

Then RBA: "10 reasons why this is a good deal, whether Wallace can produce like his Detroit days or not."

Trolls: "....Wallets is old."

I never said the deal was awful. I said I liked the West pickup, and that the jury was out on the other two. And you act as if Wallace has been anything but terrible this season.

This is certainly no sure-fire upgrade. It has potential both ways. Dont appreciate you calling me a troll for skepticism on a trade thats clearly no landslide. Duuche.
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I think, this is great deal for both teams (Cavs and Bulls).
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:00 PM   #177
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Yeah, losing Larry Hughes is such a crushing blow to the Cavs

That was a dumb acquisiting from day 1. The only reason they got him was because they struck out in the Ray Allen/Michael Redd sweepstakes. "We gotta get a name player!" They freaked out, fell in live with Hughes' 20 PPG on 40 percent shooting from the field, and overpaid dramatically for him.

He was never going to work out for them. Don't be fooled by his recent string of good games.

The way I see it, Hughes was a good defender. 2's might start to have better games against Cleveland. But, I do think Wallace will return to some sort of form and defend the post. Moving a perimeter defender for an interior defender.

Wallace better get a decent attutude though. He was negative and destructive to that Bulls team.
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:00 PM   #178
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If it helps i just played a game of 2k with the new players on the Cavs and won

Nah but for real I wish we didnt have to give up Drew but we'll just have to see how it goes. One thing though is that Wallace should definitely help us out with Detroit in the playoffs, and with his overall experience in playoff basketball
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:01 PM   #179
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Gooden > Bum Wallace

Actually playing young guys and letting them learn through their mistakes > playing Joe Smith 30 minutes a night.

Hughes sucks and Gooden is decent. Even though I could care less about who the Bulls got.

The coach-killing bum is gone. Good riddance and I can only hope the worst for Wallace. Mike Brown better watch his back.

I'm going to start watching games again now. It's been a good day.
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:02 PM   #180
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This deal is gonna revitalize Larry Hughes career.... He is in a good situation in Chicago and will be able to have the ball in his hands much more. Gooden can score a little on the block and has an all around game as well. I like this trade for Chicago.
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