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Old 02-21-2008, 06:43 PM   #271
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won't Joe smith be an expirer at over 5 mil as well? almost 30M coming off books, but you've still got Lebron, Z, Varejao, BB and Pavlovic's salary - so do they even get under the cap? they can use it as trade bait, but can't just let 'em expire...
Right... It isn't about getting under the cap. It is about using the expirers to trade for a good player.
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:43 PM   #272
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Chicago is going to run like the Suns w/Marion.

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Old 02-21-2008, 06:43 PM   #273
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Default Re: Cavs, Bulls, and Sonics 11-player deal with Ben Wallace, L.Hughes, D.Gooden, Wally S

Larry Hughes' never ending injuries caused the trade. Cleveland Cavaliers wanted to be tough. Ben Wallace can do this inside.
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:45 PM   #274
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Drew Gooden played so much smarter basketball at school...
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:50 PM   #275
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Drew Gooden got caught up in the bling, Larry has never been the same since he left the Wizard and Goldens State open court style.
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:04 PM   #276
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What can you guys tell me about Delonte West to comfort me?

He's a good shooter, an above average defender, and he hustles his ass off.

Once I found out about getting Garnett, I wanted West back. I would have been happy to lose Rondo at the time.
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:10 PM   #277
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Cleveland Cavaliers made a good job. Ben Wallace and Wally Szczerbiak are the players they need.

ehh..to me the Cavs were better off with what they had than these 2 guys
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:10 PM   #278
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He's a good shooter, an above average defender, and he hustles his ass off.

Once I found out about getting Garnett, I wanted West back. I would have been happy to lose Rondo at the time.
Nice...

How are his ball handling skills? The Cavs need a natural point guard. Will West fit the bill, in your opinion?
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:11 PM   #279
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West CAN distribute but its not his strength. He's more of a 2-guard in a point guards body. But serviceable either way, and much better at it than Damon Jones or Snow.
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:14 PM   #280
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Default Re: Cavs, Bulls, and Sonics 11-player deal with Ben Wallace, L.Hughes, D.Gooden, Wally S

Jeff McInnis has been our best PG over the past 4-5 years.

Certainly, Delonte West can be better than that. That's not a very high barometer of success to try and climb over.

Each of our PG's had only one element of the things that Senor Cedric mentioned (shooting/toughness/defense). None of them had all 3, or even close to that........
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:16 PM   #281
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West CAN distribute but its not his strength. He's more of a 2-guard in a point guards body. But serviceable either way, and much better at it than Damon Jones or Snow.
and that's all you need with lebron on the court.
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:18 PM   #282
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Default Re: Cavs, Bulls, and Sonics 11-player deal with Ben Wallace, L.Hughes, D.Gooden, Wall

This is a very random trade, and deserves some very random thoughts!

Hughes and Wallets is a wash. Both were terrible on their current teams, and huge disappointments. Hopefully a change can revitalize them. It may or it may not. However, Wallets should play the 4 next to Z. That will allow him to play D and grab boards.

With Larry Hughes coming in, doesn't this kind of spell the end of Ben Gordon in Chicago?

Wally World might be a good pick up for Cleveland. He's a spot up shooter on a team that needed a spot up shooter.

If I remember correctly, West was playing pretty well for Boston last year.

Joe Smith is a solid, if kind of boring, pickup for the Cavs. He'll be a decent backup.

Seattle has been crazy active this year. How many trades have they been a part of now? Five, dating back to last summer?

At the very least, this shakes up two teams that were underachieving.

Whew, what a season so far!

Finally, welcome back BULLS! :

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Delonte West is a solid defender and a very underrated player.
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:27 PM   #284
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kblaze, I'm confused by your post, do you think this was a good trade or no? I personally am very happy that the Bulls got rid of Ben Wallace. Joe Smith is the only talent leaving the team. Wallace sucks. The Bulls get two decent players in Larry Hughes and Drew Gooden and they can package several players together during the offseason to get a real all-star player.
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:41 PM   #285
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How are his ball handling skills? The Cavs need a natural point guard. Will West fit the bill, in your opinion?

I really want to see West enjoy 30+ at the pg spot, and find a home there. I think he has the makings of a good Cleveland system pg. He won't be an all star or get a lot of recognition, but I think he will be a reliable starter, especially in the playoffs.
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