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Old 03-02-2008, 05:53 PM   #1
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Default Why were the Lakers handed a championship team?

Its pretty evident that the lakers, especially when Bynum returns, are going to be perennial challengers for the title over the next 5 years or so.

How do you feel getting handed Pau Gasol? Do you really think it was just a matter of Memphis wanting to cut salary? If so, why didn't they demand more than just Javaris and draft picks?

Do you think LA being a top NBA market had anything to do with the willingness of Memphis to help LA out so much?

There HAD to be politics involved in this trade. Teams don't just go out handing their star players to contenders in the same conference.

Whats your take, LA fandom?
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Old 03-02-2008, 07:57 PM   #2
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I can't tell you why Memphis traded Pau, all I can say is that I'm sure glad they did.
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Old 03-02-2008, 08:04 PM   #3
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Why are you writing a thread here still complaining about the Gasol trade. Great organizations continue to create great teams.

Get over it.



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Old 03-02-2008, 09:30 PM   #4
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Default Re: Why were the Lakers handed a championship team?

They had no problem trading Gasol to LA. They were full well aware what that trade entailed. They obviously thought Gasol was being traded to the clippers until after the deal was done. DOH!!
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Old 03-02-2008, 09:35 PM   #5
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Default Re: Why were the Lakers handed a championship team?

Is this thread supposed to mean anything? One player does not make a team. Gasol is just one small piece of the puzzle. He isn't really that impressive of a big man bulkwise. He gets pushed out of there constantly and overpowered by bigger, stronger power forwards and centers. So why does anyone think that just that trade made the Lakers a perennial top team for years to come? They would have been that way even without Gasol. They have been building this team slowly but surely over the past few years. Memphis had to dump some salary and Kwame's expiring contract was perfect for a trade whereas no one else had anything they wanted.
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Old 03-02-2008, 10:23 PM   #6
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Default Re: Why were the Lakers handed a championship team?

the lakers were already a top level team when the trade was made, but i'm sure that will be conviniently forgotten by trolls as the playoffs near.

and what is this question "why didn't they ask for more?"
because THERE IS A LITTLE THING CALLED THE CBA...

the CBA does not care one bit if you want more for your allstar.
it is blind to the talent levels involved in the trade.
10 million leaves your team, 10 million comes back.
not 10 million leaves your team, but he's really a good player so you get 20 million back.

and the other thing i find funny is how many people even in the media do not understand that this trade was a talent trade for the lakers and a contract swap for the grizzlies. some people seem to not be able to grasp the fact that the grizzlies do not want contracts that will carry over, the whole object since the sale fell through last year has been to make the team as flush as possible, with as many draft pics available while being as far under the cap as they can be.
whoever buys this team will be getting as close to an expansion team as possible under the circumstances.
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Old 03-02-2008, 10:31 PM   #7
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Default Re: Why were the Lakers handed a championship team?

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How do you feel getting handed Pau Gasol? Do you really think it was just a matter of Memphis wanting to cut salary? If so, why didn't they demand more than just Javaris and draft picks?

Do you think LA being a top NBA market had anything to do with the willingness of Memphis to help LA out so much?

There HAD to be politics involved in this trade. Teams don't just go out handing their star players to contenders in the same conference.

Whats your take, LA fandom?

If Pau had been traded to the Atlanta Hawks for garbage players, you wouldn't be questioning the trade at all. Memphis is benefiting from it by unloading a player who didn't want to be there, and unloading a ton of cash.

Have you seen Javaris play lately? He's not a chump by any means.
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Old 03-02-2008, 11:15 PM   #8
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the lakers were already a top level team when the trade was made, but i'm sure that will be conviniently forgotten by trolls as the playoffs near.

and what is this question "why didn't they ask for more?"
because THERE IS A LITTLE THING CALLED THE CBA...

the CBA does not care one bit if you want more for your allstar.
it is blind to the talent levels involved in the trade.
10 million leaves your team, 10 million comes back.
not 10 million leaves your team, but he's really a good player so you get 20 million back.

and the other thing i find funny is how many people even in the media do not understand that this trade was a talent trade for the lakers and a contract swap for the grizzlies. some people seem to not be able to grasp the fact that the grizzlies do not want contracts that will carry over, the whole object since the sale fell through last year has been to make the team as flush as possible, with as many draft pics available while being as far under the cap as they can be.
whoever buys this team will be getting as close to an expansion team as possible under the circumstances.

Very nice response and dead on... dang, you are good.



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Old 03-04-2008, 04:35 PM   #9
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Default Re: Why were the Lakers handed a championship team?

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Why are you writing a thread here still complaining about the Gasol trade. Great organizations continue to create great teams.

Get over it.




oh come on I'm pretty sure I've seen you trash Kupchek

this had nothing to do with slick GMing it was a giveaway
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:38 PM   #10
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Memphis wanted the salary cap space
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:40 PM   #11
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Default Re: Why were the Lakers handed a championship team?

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the lakers were already a top level team when the trade was made, but i'm sure that will be conviniently forgotten by trolls as the playoffs near.

and what is this question "why didn't they ask for more?"
because THERE IS A LITTLE THING CALLED THE CBA...

the CBA does not care one bit if you want more for your allstar.
it is blind to the talent levels involved in the trade.
10 million leaves your team, 10 million comes back.
not 10 million leaves your team, but he's really a good player so you get 20 million back.

and the other thing i find funny is how many people even in the media do not understand that this trade was a talent trade for the lakers and a contract swap for the grizzlies. some people seem to not be able to grasp the fact that the grizzlies do not want contracts that will carry over, the whole object since the sale fell through last year has been to make the team as flush as possible, with as many draft pics available while being as far under the cap as they can be.
whoever buys this team will be getting as close to an expansion team as possible under the circumstances.

I understand Memphis' desire to drop salary. But if they had waited until the summer they could've gotten a better deal.

If I were Memphis I would've demanded a 3rd team getting involved. If nothing materializes you bide your time like Minny did with KG... and a better deal surfaces.

Chicago had pieces like Noah, Nocioni, and expiring PJ Brown. Instead Memphis went for a 3rd young PG in Javaris.

This was not a basketball trade. This was political. Salary was an issue but they could have gotten expirers with better young guys/draft picks from a number of other teams.
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:46 PM   #12
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The Gm for Memphis is getting hammered lets wait a year or two and see what he does with the situation. He will have alot of salary and talented point guards to work with.
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:27 PM   #13
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oh come on I'm pretty sure I've seen you trash Kupchek

this had nothing to do with slick GMing it was a giveaway

lool what does Kuptchak hate have to do with us getting Pau?
Absolutely nothing. Putting SoCal on blast doesn't exactly prove anything.
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:33 PM   #14
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Default Re: Why were the Lakers handed a championship team?

Kuptchak is the GM who made the deal is he not?
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Kuptchak is the GM who made the deal is he not?

it has nothing to do with hating kuptchak.

it was simply a good trade. Memphis wanted the biggest expiring contract which was Kwame, and then they wanted picks and a rookie prospect. we wanted Pau. Both sides agreed and You'll find memphis competing in a few years.
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