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Old 03-04-2008, 08:07 AM   #166
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Default Re: Sticky: The MVP thread (AKA the Kobe vs Lebron thread)

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Only thing funny here is a Kobe fan ridiculing the idea of the leagues best player being the MVP on a weak team. Hypocrite much ?

I find it hilarious that 2 yrs ago Kobe had one of the greatest seasons ever and finished 4th and was left completely off 22 ballots. Now LBJ has a chance to win it on a team on pace for 45-46 wins in the pathetic EAST. What a bunch of hypocrites.
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:12 AM   #167
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Default Re: Sticky: The MVP thread (AKA the Kobe vs Lebron thread)

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I find it hilarious that 2 yrs ago Kobe had one of the greatest seasons ever and finished 4th and was left completely off 22 ballots. Now LBJ has a chance to win it on a team on pace for 45-46 wins in the pathetic EAST. What a bunch of hypocrites.

LeBron won't win it this season..

the way the voters base so much of the vote on the team's winning %, LBJ won't win this year

the way I see it is as follows..

Kobe deserves it this season, but not the past two seasons... but if Kobe deserved it the past two seasons, then LeBron deserves it this season...


I personally think the MVP should actually be the "most valuable player", which would make me choose LeBron this season by a close margin, but Kobe did definitely deserve it the past two seasons.... but that's my personal view on the MVP award.... that's why I said it's a joke of an award anyways.. it just goes to the best player on the best team instead of the most valuable player...


and I'm sure they both would prefer a championship over an MVP anyways
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:37 AM   #168
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Default Re: I'm so sick and tired of reading post after post about Kobe and Lebron

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Basketball isn't a team sport. Nobody cares about the team. It's a star-driven league, and fans want to see stars play. The actual game of basketball itself (played the right way) is very boring. More people would care if it was a 1-on-1 show.


Wow..

That there in essence sums up the idiotic mentality of your generation. And U fools wonder why long time fans have turned away from the game, thus causing all time lows in ratings, the likes that haven't been seen since the 70's & refuse to take U guys serious....

People like U just don't get it & I'm starting to wonder if U ever will, which spells T-R-O-U-B-L-E for the life line of the NBA
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:38 AM   #169
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Lebron, at least he has his own style and doesn't imitate Micheal Jordan

I agree.


not that I'm against Kobe..
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Old 03-04-2008, 10:47 AM   #170
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Default Re: Sticky: The MVP thread (AKA the Kobe vs Lebron thread)

MVP's in order:

Duncan - best player, top team, best defender in the league (By alot)
CP3 - most with the least. 20-10 and league leader in steals. Are you kidding?
Kobe
Lebron (what the team win % when LB is healthy?)
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Old 03-04-2008, 12:54 PM   #171
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Default The Never Ending Argument - Kobe vs Lebron

I read an article on Yahoo today arguing this subject. First..the numbers:

Kobe Bryant : 28.2 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 5.4 apg, 2.0 spg, 3.4 topg, 47% FG, 34% 3PTFG, 38.4 mpg

Lebron James: 30.3 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 7.5 apg, 2.0 spg, 3.4 topg, 48% FG, 30% 3PTFG, 40.5 mpg

"Worse, James is going to get burned by voters who will credit him for MVPs likely won from 2009-2019 and hand it to Kobe just because he's playing "unselfish" basketball." No, Kobe's playing the same brand of competitive basketball he always has, just for a championship-level team. If he wasn't "selfish" in 2005-06 and 2006-07 then the Lakers win 30 games. Replacing a Chris Mihm with a Gasol shouldn't mean James should be denied".

Thats a quote from the article and I'm not sure what he means by Lebron is playing "unselfish" basketball. Kobe averages 20.4 shots per game while Lebron James has 22.4 per game. The Lakers are 3rd in the league when it comes to scoring (107.8 ppg) while Cleveland is 16th (97.05 ppg). What does that all mean? Kobe's scoring doesn't account for as much as the his team's total as much as Lebron's does for the Cavs. My point? Its unfair to say that either one is selfish or not, especially stating that Kobe is selfish, because Lebron shoots more than Kobe.

The Lakers were 30-16 before they traded for Gasol and they did it without Bynum for a good part of those games. Some may argue which has more talent around them and that they're playing in different conferences.

IMO, this year, Kobe is the league's best player. Wade isn't even in the argument who has some nice pieces in Miami but are still 11-46.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:03 PM   #172
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Default Re: The Never Ending Argument - Kobe vs Lebron

This topic has been discussed over, and over, and over, and over, and over again. There are Kobe-Haters, and there are Lebron-Haters ..... pick your poison!!!

* Lebron has the stats BUT not the wins (in a weak Conference)!!!
* Kobe has the stats AND the wins (in a very strong Conference)!!!

"MVP" - Kobe Bryant

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Old 03-04-2008, 01:18 PM   #173
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Default Re: The Never Ending Argument - Kobe vs Lebron

kobe has a jumper, and lebron barely does. Wow, he leads the league in points in the 4th quarter, but Kobe prob leads the league in points in the 4th quarter that matter, such as the game vs. dallas, lebron could not do that. The game agasint the pistons, was the sloppiest game dominating 4th quarter ever, every shot you were just like "that aint goin in, not cause they were insane shots, cause the form and even the way the ball went in was sloppy. With kobe, you just know that damn balls goin in, just like mike.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:31 PM   #174
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Default Can someone just make one big topic about Kobe + Lbj

Could someone make a topic about them like a debate topic whre people could talk about them.....

seriosuly this secrtion is being filled up with LBJ and Kobe topics might as well make one big topic about them... and sticky it just for the hell of it.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:32 PM   #175
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Default Re: Can someone just make one big topic about Kobe + Lbj

i dunno, considering we have team forums, we should probably just have a forum for those two and all the comparisons
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:52 PM   #176
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Could someone make a topic about them like a debate topic whre people could talk about them.....

seriosuly this secrtion is being filled up with LBJ and Kobe topics might as well make one big topic about them... and sticky it just for the hell of it.

I CONCUR!!!
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:57 PM   #177
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Default Re: Can someone just make one big topic about Kobe + Lbj

Personally I would prefer we just ban anyone with Kobe or LeBron's name in their screen-name, that'd weed a lot of the problems out.
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Old 03-04-2008, 02:05 PM   #178
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Personally I would prefer we just ban anyone with Kobe or LeBron's name in their screen-name, that'd weed a lot of the problems out.
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and people making threads like this don't help one bit. the last few days all i see is threads *****ing about the whole kobe lebron argument.
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Old 03-04-2008, 02:14 PM   #179
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Default Re: Can someone just make one big topic about Kobe + Lbj

listen guys, everytime PB finds out another amazing tidbit he can use to incontravertibly prove that lbj is a better mvp candidate than kobe, it deserves it's own topic. like yesterday when he discovered that garnett's team has more wins than kobe's. that was incredible information he shared with us, and obviously gave us all a lot to think about concerning lebron's mvp candidacy.
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:11 PM   #180
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Default Ricky davis quote about lebron james

Do you guys remember this funny ass quote b ricky davis man it still cracks me up.

"I established myself last year in Cleveland, and I thought LeBron was just going to be another addition to the team and help me score. I guess it was different.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...112168710/pg_3
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