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Old 08-11-2006, 06:00 PM   #16
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I think Dirk is slightly overrated by some of you just beacuse he is such a UNIQUE player. I still think he is top 10 in the league though, just not top 5.
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:01 PM   #17
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KG had similar talent one year in Minny, and he won 58 games. Dirk won 60. How the hell would KG look "a lot better?"

And Dirk plays with one of the sh!ttiest teams in the world and makes them way better than they are, they're called "Germany."

Heh, good call.
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you think KG wouldn't make zimbabwe look better than they are?

and KG NEVER has had the talent surrounding dirk right now.
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:02 PM   #19
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I don't see how you can still put Duncan above Dirk. Dirk outplayed him in the regular season AND head-to-head in the playoffs.

top 5 (no order)

Kobe
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:04 PM   #20
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i can't think of another player ahead of dirk so i'd put him at #6.

guys like nash, t-mac, VC, etc. would be the next level.
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I completely disagree with you.

I think Duncan outplayed Dirk in the playoffs, but the rest of the Mavs outplayed the rest of the Spurs.
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:07 PM   #22
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I completely disagree with you.

I think Duncan outplayed Dirk in the playoffs, but the rest of the Mavs outplayed the rest of the Spurs.

The Spurs gameplan was to take out Dirk, whereas the Mavs let Duncan have his and tried to shut down Parker, Ginobili and the Spurs bench so you really cant say that.
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duncan owned the mavs in some of those games. it doesn't matter if they put in seth green to defend him.
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:14 PM   #24
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and KG NEVER has had the talent surrounding dirk right now.

Sam Cassell, 20/7, better than Terry then, maybe even better now
Spree, 17PPG, was considered even better then than Howard is now

Didn't have the same bench, but many of Dallas's backups missed significant time, and Cassell/Spree is better than Terry/Howard.

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you think KG wouldn't make zimbabwe look better than they are?

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't get them the bronze in the 02 Worlds or silver in the 05 Euros.

KG is the far better all-around player, and I might even take him over Dirk, but he just isn't the scorer Dirk is. If a sucky team needs anything from their best player, it's scoring.
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I completely disagree with you.

I think Duncan outplayed Dirk in the playoffs, but the rest of the Mavs outplayed the rest of the Spurs.

Did Duncan have 37/15 in game 7? Did Duncan make the game tieing play to take it to overtime? Did Duncan dominate the other team in OT?

Duncan had a great series against Dallas, but Dirk made the more important plays, had better stats and won the series. That's outplaying to me
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Cassell/Spree is better than Terry/Howard.



WRONG ^^^^
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the year you mentioned when KG had a couple good starters around him, he put up 24 ppg. dirk put up 25 ppg this season. no real difference and KG hasn't regressed since then...his team has.

plus KG gets around 11-14 ppg every year while dirk officially has never even hit the 10 mark.
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:17 PM   #28
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juvenile, outplaying someone in one game doesn't make you better.
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:17 PM   #29
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Dirk is definately in the top 5 but, at seasons end he may possibly be knocked out by Amare
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Dirk is definately in the top 5 but, at seasons end he may possibly be knocked out by Amare

I guess you didnt hear about Amares knee
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