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Old 04-01-2008, 01:30 AM   #1
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why is this guy so highly regarded? havent really seen too much of him... i hear hes a big with a solid mid-range jumper but why does he only make 50% of his freethrows? wats the scoop on Javale??
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Old 04-02-2008, 02:23 AM   #2
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McGee is a solid prospect, but I think he is being overrated.

The good: He is only 20, has room to put another 20 or 25 pounds on his body, is at least close to 7-0 with long arms, and is athletic.

The bad: He is to skinny and weak to play in the NBA right now, his post skills lack much skill, and he is a complete potential pick right now.

With all of this said, he could end up being a really good NBA player with good coaching, but there is also a chance he just never developes and wilts as an NBDL player/10th man. I think if you are a playoff team that is going to need an athletic big man down the road (Suns, Mavs, Rockets, Pistons) I would snatch him up and let him learn from a Duncan or Yao.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:43 AM   #3
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(http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonathan-Givony/)

Where is JaVale McGee in this Draft?

Possibly the hardest player to peg as far as draft stock is concerned is Nevada sophomore JaVale McGee. Three different teams we spoke to this week couldn’t possibly be any farther apart on where they have him slated. “We have him going anywhere from 7-12” said one representative of an Eastern conference team. “We compare him to Jonathan Bender in terms of his all-around talent level, and also in how far off he is from contributing at this point. He’s nowhere near ready.” Another team in the East we spoke to doesn’t like him at all. “He’s a guy someone probably takes a flyer on in the 20’s, just because he’s big, he’s got tools, and he might end up panning out in 3-4 years. I don’t see who has the patience for that, but maybe you take him for your D-League team, who knows?” A third team basically has him all over the board. “10 to 22 is his range. He’s a pure potential guy, who not many NBA GMs know since he wasn’t expected to be in this draft.”
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:59 PM   #4
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I'm from the Bay Area and frequently visit Reno, NV. I was there for a weekend in November and saw that the Wolf Pack were playing Santa Clara. Being only a few minutes from the campus, I decided to drop by and check the game out while my friends gambled their life savings away at the casino. There was a guy named Kemp that was actually very impressive that day, but JaVale McGee wasn't even a focus on offense. What was impressive about McGee was his size, mobility, and athleticism. He got up the floor very easily and looked more like a small or power forward while he was running. He showed great quickness and good hands as he caught a few fastballs in the lane. After that, I kept an eye on the boxscores and saw that he got 20 and 13 against a much better UNLV team in the next game. Then I looked him up on YouTube and was more impressed. The truth is, 7 footers with his length, athleticism, mobility, hands, and size....gets lots of attention during the draft. I wouldn't be surprised if he went ahead of DeAndre Jordan or Brook Lopez.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJilDqw8JOY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSh4w-UPUk4
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Old 05-13-2008, 01:39 PM   #5
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I agree, HoopWiz, Nevada was a pretty young team that was for the most part guard dominated. McGee was for the most part the one inside presence. Kemp dominated the ball which isn't a bad thing since he is a pretty good player in his own right, but McGee got a lot of expereince trying to hold down the post on his own. He was up and down, like you said, but I think it shows how much potential he has.
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Old 05-13-2008, 01:46 PM   #6
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I like your post Disco, but I think it just comes down to what teams look for. Some teams look at a guys ceiling and base their pick on how good a player could be. Maybe it is a guy like LeBron who has a ceiling of like a 100, and was already at like 75. A guy like McGee could be a nice 15 and 10 guy, which I would say is a ceiling of like 90 since he is a center, and he is only at about maybe 50 at this point. Other GM's look for the sure thing. McGee is not that at all. That doesn't mean they take a senior every time, but maybe a guy like Robin Lopez who might have as many issues as McGee at the next level, but is a more finished product.
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Old 05-13-2008, 01:58 PM   #7
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He's the Villanueva of this draft. He will be picked much earlier than expected. His combination of size, athleticism and skill is too great to not be a lottery pick.

Hopefully he's picked up by an organization that will actually be patient with it's players and not do a Tyrus Thomas on him.
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:36 PM   #8
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I like your post Disco, but I think it just comes down to what teams look for. Some teams look at a guys ceiling and base their pick on how good a player could be. Maybe it is a guy like LeBron who has a ceiling of like a 100, and was already at like 75. A guy like McGee could be a nice 15 and 10 guy, which I would say is a ceiling of like 90 since he is a center, and he is only at about maybe 50 at this point. Other GM's look for the sure thing. McGee is not that at all. That doesn't mean they take a senior every time, but maybe a guy like Robin Lopez who might have as many issues as McGee at the next level, but is a more finished product.

Hey, I didn't write that. Sorry I wasn't very clear in my sourcing, but it was from the draftexpress link in the beginning of the post.

I just posted it because I think it was an interesting read. This either a) confirms that nba scouts/executives have very different opinions on some prospects and are often guessing when they draft or b) there is some somescreen spreading already.
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:50 PM   #9
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i actually kind of like this guy as a prospect to be a middle-late first round pick- if you compared him to a guy like patrick obryant from a couple years ago you have to think that his athletisism gives him much more potential to play in the nba

i have mcgee somewhere in the pf & c mix somewhere near hibbert, aurthur, r lopez, and ibaka- personally i place mcgee ahead of deandre jordon- imo mcgee should go somewhere between 14& 24-

the guy i would like to think about in placing mcgee in this draft is joey dorsey- alot of hate on dorsey but i would take dorsey over mcgee in a second, dorsey will be a factor from day 1- you could make an argument that mcgees ceiling is higher but the chances of him reaching that cieling are imo nowhere near high enough to choose him over dorsey- i am convinced that dorsey could help any nba team in the league, i really see a perfect fit with the warriors at #14

mcgee shows flashes, but is that worth a top 10 pick? maybe, but chances are that a team that chooses him that early shouldnt count on a huge impact and will likely be in the top 10 again

i agree with the guy who said a team in the late 20's could be a nice fit but i have a feeling that he will go in the teens,maybe earlier

i would definitly take dorsey and hibbert and probobly aurthur ibaka and if you wanted a legit center even r lopez in front of javale
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:04 AM   #10
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We've gotten to a point in the NBA draft where pretty much any 7-footer with even the slightest of a jumpshot and some quickness just gets horribly overrated leading up to draft day (hello Bargnani). That said, he does seem like the kind of player who may or may not impress in workouts, so 10-22 range is probably pretty accurate.
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We've gotten to a point in the NBA draft where pretty much any 7-footer with even the slightest of a jumpshot and some quickness just gets horribly overrated leading up to draft day (hello Bargnani). That said, he does seem like the kind of player who may or may not impress in workouts, so 10-22 range is probably pretty accurate.

I agree. All the decent 7 footers get picked high, no matter how good they are. But the thing with big men is high risk high reward. And the risk isn't actually really that big. The worst case scenario is that you get comeone you can play 10-15 mins a game with 6 fouls to spare. Whereas a pg, sg or sf who isn't any good ends up staying in the bench and playing only garbage minutes.
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We've gotten to a point in the NBA draft where pretty much any 7-footer with even the slightest of a jumpshot and some quickness just gets horribly overrated leading up to draft day (hello Bargnani). That said, he does seem like the kind of player who may or may not impress in workouts, so 10-22 range is probably pretty accurate.
I like that, I got to work on my quickness though...
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