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Old 04-12-2008, 12:49 AM   #1
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Default farmar is never going to be a starter

and im starting to question him as a backup, no one will ever change my mind i rather have jcrit...

farmar has NO basketball IQ, he cant play defense, the only thing he has for himself is quickness (which he doesnt know how to use) and a streaky 3 pt shot.

i wish we kept Jcrit.
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Old 04-12-2008, 12:54 AM   #2
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Default Re: farmar is never going to be a starter

I disagree. He has alot of assists plus he is a shot creator on open court/ layup plays
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Old 04-12-2008, 01:08 AM   #3
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Default Re: farmar is never going to be a starter

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has NO basketball IQ, he cant play defense, the only thing he has for himself is quickness (which he doesnt know how to use) and a streaky 3 pt shot.

You just described Critt, except Critt's jumpshot isn't even streaky--it's just bad. I love the guy, and I think he's got a bright future, but he's not a good player right now.

Farmar's been struggling of late, but he's still one of the better backup points in the league. Don't panic. Jordan will improve.
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Old 04-12-2008, 01:15 AM   #4
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Default Re: farmar is never going to be a starter

I think Frank is right... Farmar just needs more time in the league to develop both offensively and defensively. If he improves as much next season as he did this season, the Lakers should be fine.



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Old 04-12-2008, 01:36 AM   #5
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Default Re: farmar is never going to be a starter

um i guess, now that he has playing time in memphis hes been dropping 20 points the last 4 games and getting assists like nothing, he has more lateral quickness than jordan farmar and i think he has better defensive potental than farmar

but thats just me, lets jjust hope you guys are right
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Old 04-12-2008, 01:43 AM   #6
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Default Re: farmar is never going to be a starter

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um i guess, now that he has playing time in memphis hes been dropping 20 points the last 4 games and getting assists like nothing

No he hasn't.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/javari...ame_stats.html

Last 4 games:
0 pts, 0 assists, 8 minutes
9 pts 2 assists, 27 minutes
23 pts, 4 assists, 31 minutes
7 pts, 3 assists, 33 minutes

All that matters, given the depth of the current squad, is who's better right now and for the next few seasons. Farmar's ceiling isn't as high as Critt's, but he is--and will continue to be--the better player for the foreseeable future.
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Default Re: farmar is never going to be a starter

thats because he got iinjured
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Old 04-12-2008, 01:51 AM   #8
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Default Re: farmar is never going to be a starter

Your claim is still false. He's had two 20 point games all season. And his season high in assists is 4.
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Old 04-12-2008, 02:20 AM   #9
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Default Re: farmar is never going to be a starter

I have to disagree also. Farmar is still a developing player. With young players you have to stick with them whether they're playing good or bad. They're bound to have some bad games but their playtime is what makes them improve. Farmars defense isn't that bad, his jumper has been pretty off lately, but hey common he's UCLA last shooter we had was cap.

Farmar has a pretty good shot, it just hasn't been consistent. I hate his pick and roll def, but our whole team sucks at that. The only player that can kinda guard it is fish who I honestly think should be getting more rest to get ready for the playoffs.
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Old 04-12-2008, 02:32 AM   #10
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um i guess, now that he has playing time in memphis hes been dropping 20 points the last 4 games and getting assists like nothing, he has more lateral quickness than jordan farmar and i think he has better defensive potental than farmar

but thats just me, lets jjust hope you guys are right

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No he hasn't.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/javari...ame_stats.html

Last 4 games:
0 pts, 0 assists, 8 minutes
9 pts 2 assists, 27 minutes
23 pts, 4 assists, 31 minutes
7 pts, 3 assists, 33 minutes

All that matters, given the depth of the current squad, is who's better right now and for the next few seasons. Farmar's ceiling isn't as high as Critt's, but he is--and will continue to be--the better player for the foreseeable future.

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thats because he got iinjured

?? lol just kinda making it up as you go along brandon?
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Old 04-12-2008, 01:11 PM   #11
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He could be, he's just in a sophmore slump
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Old 04-12-2008, 03:34 PM   #12
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Default Re: farmar is never going to be a starter

i was excited when he started out hte season so well, but like most players he hit the wall of reality and a 0 to 100 improvement from 1 season is just not likely... but he will become better and so im confident in him.. plus we have fisher...
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Old 04-13-2008, 02:41 AM   #13
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Default Re: farmar is never going to be a starter

Crittenton will probably be a better player than farmar in the longer run which I do expect.

but not now, we don't need any more rookies as we have a few decent prospects including ones that dont even play for us this season.

this season Farmar is averaging 20 minutes a game and adding 9 ppg with 2 boards and 3 assists and a steal per game.

He's also shooting a whoppin 45% from FG and 36% from three.

Javaris with increased minutes on memphis is averaging 7 points on 40 percent shooting with a mediocre 28%.

Whatever Critt is doing, Farmar is matching that as he had a few 20 point games this season also. While their rebounds are both the same, Javaris is averaging only 1 assist a game and .5 steals per game in case you wanna know about defense.

if that's not that convincing, Farmar's assist to turnover ratio is considerably higher with a 3/1.3 ratio while Critt's is a 1/1.18 ratio.

This year and next, farmar is the guy we need as a backup since fisher is here.

If we need a starting pg, I would pursue JC in 3-4 years.
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Old 04-13-2008, 11:41 PM   #14
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Default Re: farmar is never going to be a starter

Farmar has a brass pair on him. I like him because he has the guts to shoot big shots and the ability as well. Give him time and he will knock down good shots and be more consistent. And as far as his defense, it will get better. You don't go to UCLA under Howland and play soft D. He is just adjusting to the bigger and sronger NBA players. Because the rest of the Lakers play crappy defense sometimes, it allows opposing point guards to not fear going inside. As far as Critt goes, he's gone. Good upside but not a concern here anymore.

Because (most) players these days don't get well rounded in college, they tend to show their weaknesses the first couple of years in the NBA. Sasha is turning out to be pretty good in my opinion and if we are patient, Farmar will be decent as well.
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Old 04-13-2008, 11:53 PM   #15
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It's way too early to see what kind of player Farmar is going to be. He came out of college after 1 or 2 seasons at 19 or 20? Sasha was drafted at 19 and took 4 years to find his grove. Bynum drafted at 17, was just starting to figure it all out at 20. Even Kobe took a few years to get it all together.

He's super young, cut the kid some slack, he's already showed dramatic improvement from year 1 to year 2. He's a gym rat and should keep improving. Seriously who thought he'd become such an effective 3 point shooter literally over night? Even though he's shooting has slumped in the second half, he's still shooting 36.5% from long range for the year, that will get it done.
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