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Old 04-15-2008, 12:33 PM   #31
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Default Re: Deltron 3030 - Quite Possibly the Best Hiphop Album I've Ever Heard

Dr. Octagon > Deltron 3030

Everyone was blown away when they first heard 3030, especially the title track. Even my girl was on that shit. But, if you listen to each album time and time again, you'll come to the conclusion Dr. Octagon holds more replay value. This is a given, even at face value where you can't see it happening.

Dr. Octagon was very much under the radar for such a long time. It was hot when it first dropped back in '96, but then album sales surged once again after people heard about Dan the Automator's work on 3030, and how it was often compared to Dr. Octagon.

There's no question Kool Keith is the better emcee (when he wants to be!), but Dan the Automator's work IMO is as equally good on both album, difference being Dr. Octagon is a darker... creeper album and just better put together (DJ Q-Bert > Kid Koala).

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Speaking of Kool Keith, Dr. Octagon is not pinnacle of work. Dr. Dooom is a less superior album production wise (KutMasta Kurt) - however lyrically this is vastly different from the space persona of Dr. Octagon, where Kool Keith takes it to the streets. To me, Dr. Dooom > Dr. Octagon.

Someone mentioned Project Polaroid. I've been banging that in the mornings since it came out. It's a shame many people don't know about it. Space 8000 is my shit. Loved Talk to the Romans, Diamond District, The Overviewer and Midwestern Shoe Calhoun.

Nogatco Rd (Dr. Octagon reversed) was also a very surprised Kool Keith release (in a good way!). Big Adventure and Different are just phenomenal and mind blowing.

I'm glad to see some fellow Kool Keith fans here too. Back on the old board before anyone really knew or gave a damn about Kool Keith, people would flame me for trying to preach about his music.



Sad thing is, Kool Keith has been innovating the rap game since the days of Ultramagnetic MCs... but all these "supposed" hip-hop heads here wouldn't know jack shit about that of course.



Yes, there is a world where someone can be a huge fan of both Lil Wayne and Kool Keith!
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:11 PM   #32
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Del sucks live
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:16 PM   #33
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So does Kool Keith half the time.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:47 PM   #34
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Del the Funky Homosapien, he always spit sickness and was a emcee amongst others of course who changed your perspective of West Coast rappers. You were led to believe the whole gang banging, hardcore, gangsta content was all that side could feed you. He was one of many who helped changed that for those who were into hip hop. I'm sure some still think thats all Cali is, when its not. I always was a fan of Casual from that whole crew.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:48 PM   #35
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Kool Keith is horrible....planet Jupiter can claim him if they want. Earth dont!

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Old 04-15-2008, 01:50 PM   #36
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GOBB - you should check Jedi Mind Tricks being from Philly and all.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:59 PM   #37
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GOBB - you should check Jedi Mind Tricks being from Philly and all.

I know about them. They dont get enough props from folks here. Thier song is on my myspace page "A Man Apart".
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devin the dude puts on a hell of a live show though
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:03 PM   #39
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JMT is one of my favourites. Great group.


Still been listening to Deltron all day. Such an amazing album.
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devin the dude puts on a hell of a live show though

He's a funny rapper. Like a comedian who can rap.
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Old 04-15-2008, 03:09 PM   #41
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Default Re: Deltron 3030 - Quite Possibly the Best Hiphop Album I've Ever Heard

Del's the better emcee, but Dr. Octagonalogyst is the better album between Deltron 3030 and Dr. Octagonalogyst.
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Old 04-15-2008, 03:11 PM   #42
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Default Re: Deltron 3030 - Quite Possibly the Best Hiphop Album I've Ever Heard

Del > Kool Keith ??????



Have you not heard Dr. Dooom? Check it out.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:08 PM   #43
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Default Re: Deltron 3030 - Quite Possibly the Best Hiphop Album I've Ever Heard

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Del > Kool Keith ??????



Have you not heard Dr. Dooom? Check it out.

Yeah I dont get it, to each their own, but I dont think Del is in Kool Keiths league.

Del has 3030. Keith as Dr. Octagon, Dr. Doom, Project Polariod, Black Elvis Lost In Space and others. Kool Keith has tons of concept albums whereas Del has one from what I see.

Dr. Dooom, is sick, a serial killer roaming the streets. Dr. Octagon an intergalactic gynecologist. Keiths creativity, styles, flows and ideas are unmatched. I just don't think Del has the ability to do what Kool Keith can do

My opinion of course.

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Old 04-15-2008, 11:23 PM   #44
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36 chambers is much much better. If they were basketball players, 36 chambers would be Reggie Miller and Deltron 3030 would be JJ Reddick. Bizarre Ride II: The Pharcyde west coast rap that is Ray Allen to Deltron 3030's Reddick.

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Old 04-16-2008, 04:46 AM   #45
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bizarre ride is the best hip hop album i can think of but i think your analogy is poor. i think it's like dwight (36 chambers) vs. amare (deltron) vs. KG (bizarre ride II the pharcyde), Reddick would be like... the arsonists.


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Ah, yeah- Ridonks, you should check out "Haiku De Tat" (self titled first album). I feel like if you like Deltron you'll get into this.
Also there's this album called "Green and Gold" by The Anonymous that is worth checking out. The song "Dr. EZ's Cool Fantastic (part 1 or 2, can't remember)" is great.

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