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Old 08-27-2006, 12:05 PM   #16
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Kenyon Martin not good? You gotta be kidding me! Kenyon grabbed so many boards. More importantly, he would give it up to Kidd right away to start the break. He would also finish a lot of those fast breaks dunking on someones mouth. He could also post some one up. He could face them up. He could evan hit the 10-15 foot jumper. I liked Charles Oakley and have a lot of respect for the man but, He is no Kenyon Martin. Lets go through it one time.

Offensive rebounding- K-Mart-Oak Tree
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Old 03-12-2009, 06:11 PM   #18
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We still have this problem 3 yrs later
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Old 03-12-2009, 06:37 PM   #19
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We still have this problem 3 yrs later
More of a SF problem now.
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Old 03-13-2009, 04:16 AM   #20
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More of a SF problem now.
well i pretty-much disagree.

right now we have three swingmen (besides carter) that each bring something a little different to the table. almost every game one of them turns in a very solid performance depending on which one of them gets the PT due to matchups and stuff.

many championship teams have done far worse than having a hayes-simmons-hassell situation at SF.

meanwhile, we almost never know what we're going to get at PF. we have one chinese guy who should really be dressed in black magician's clothes because it's a total mystery whether he will do anything useful or not, and one caucasian guy who is a rookie, so we can't be totally hard on him whether he disappears or not.

i mean, by next year, is this same situation going to be acceptable at the PF slot?

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Old 03-13-2009, 09:07 AM   #21
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I think its a combination of both PF and SF. As far as the SF situation goes...i think we have a solid SF in Hayes right now, and also depending on which nights, you'll get production from the other SF's. But the problem is, i think that the SF's that we have are one dimensional. Hayes and Simmons are good 3 point shooters and can put up points when needed but they have to expand their game. (slashing, taking to the rim, rebounding, assists, mid range, etc) If they can work on these aspects then there will not be a need to fill that SF void. If they cannot better their game then we will need to invest in a SF like a Carmelo Anthony type of player that will instantly give that to you, and then have your backup SF like Hayes and Simmons coming off the bench to give us those 3's.

As far as the PF situation, i agree that you really dont know what your getting. The PF's we have now seem to me to be more of backup PF's. No one has really stepped it up with the attitude like "Im the Starting PF" We have a lot of potentials in Williams, Anderson, Yi, Boone, Najera...but whose going to really step it up? I think Najera or Anderson could be that dude. If not, then what the Nets orginzation is going to have to do is dump 2 of these PF's and pickup and instant starting PF (someone like an Emeka Okafur or Rasheed Wallace) ***note im not suggesting that we pick up these players, im just making reference them***

Kenny Smith said it best in his analysis of the Eastern Conference. Basically he said that the Nets and the Bulls can be stable playoff contenders for years to come if they just make one more major move...

I think that move will be what i talked about above.
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:33 AM   #22
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You just reminded me..

where the hell is Najera ??
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where the hell is Najera ??
Out for the season, I think he's getting surgery.
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well i pretty-much disagree.

right now we have three swingmen (besides carter) that each bring something a little different to the table. almost every game one of them turns in a very solid performance depending on which one of them gets the PT due to matchups and stuff.

many championship teams have done far worse than having a hayes-simmons-hassell situation at SF.

meanwhile, we almost never know what we're going to get at PF. we have one chinese guy who should really be dressed in black magician's clothes because it's a total mystery whether he will do anything useful or not, and one caucasian guy who is a rookie, so we can't be totally hard on him whether he disappears or not.

i mean, by next year, is this same situation going to be acceptable at the PF slot?
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:29 PM   #25
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...what the Nets orginzation is going to have to do is dump 2 of these PF's and pickup and instant starting PF (someone like an Emeka Okafur or Rasheed Wallace) ***note im not suggesting that we pick up these players, im just making reference them***

Kenny Smith said it best in his analysis of the Eastern Conference. Basically he said that the Nets and the Bulls can be stable playoff contenders for years to come if they just make one more major move...

I think that move will be what i talked about above.
here's an idea- elton brand has been a bust and looks like a terrible fit for the sixers. not to mention they have very little need for him anyway with the great play of thaddeus young. i'm sure they've been wanting to unload his big, long contract but probably have had no serious offers.

they also need good shooters.

so send yi (a shooter), simmons (to match contracts), and the other dallas #1 pick we got in the kidd trade to the sixers for brand.

it solves a big roster and contract headache for the sixers and gives us a stud who should work far better in the nets offense than he did in the sixers fastbreak offense.

the negatives would be that it uses up simmons' $10 million that would have been free for 2010 and there's the question of whether brand will turn into an injury machine. but hey, okafur and wallace have big price tags too.

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here's an idea- elton brand has been a bust and looks like a terrible fit for the sixers. not to mention they have very little need for him anyway with the great play of thaddeus young. i'm sure they've been wanting to unload his big, long contract but probably have had no serious offers.

they also need good shooters.

so send yi (a shooter), simmons (to match contracts), and the other dallas #1 pick we got in the kidd trade to the sixers for brand.

it solves a big roster and contract headache for the sixers and gives us a stud who should work far better in the nets offense than he did in the sixers fastbreak offense.

the negatives would be that it uses up simmons' $10 million that would have been free for 2010 and there's the question of whether brand will turn into an injury machine. but hey, okafur and wallace have big price tags too.

Now thats the best thing ive heard all day. are there any openings for GM? lol..

You know what i also think. I think that it would be a damn good idea if somehow the nets management/owners/etc can make a forum to where we the fans express our opinions, trade scenarios, and suggestions to these guys. Something that they can see and can respond to. Cause who else knows the nets better than the fans. Im not saying that we make the decisions, cause obviously that wont happen but some kind of 2 way feedback/communication between us nets fans and kiki...i think that would be kind of cool..
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here's an idea- elton brand has been a bust and looks like a terrible fit for the sixers. not to mention they have very little need for him anyway with the great play of thaddeus young. i'm sure they've been wanting to unload his big, long contract but probably have had no serious offers.

they also need good shooters.

so send yi (a shooter), simmons (to match contracts), and the other dallas #1 pick we got in the kidd trade to the sixers for brand.

it solves a big roster and contract headache for the sixers and gives us a stud who should work far better in the nets offense than he did in the sixers fastbreak offense.

the negatives would be that it uses up simmons' $10 million that would have been free for 2010 and there's the question of whether brand will turn into an injury machine. but hey, okafur and wallace have big price tags too.
I am not a fan of that trade at all....
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Now thats the best thing ive heard all day. are there any openings for GM? lol..
heh, thanks.
i think that's the first trade scenerio i've ever imagined.

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well, if you're a season ticket holder then you get to meet with thorn and vandy twice a season in a town hall format and put forth anything on your mind.

beyond that, there are hundreds of thousands of fans following each franchise and probably 99.9% of them are going to come up with crap ideas, so the challenge would be filtering out the junk to get to the good stuff.

i mean, if you have a good idea for how to do that then i'd love to see it work out...

i think part of the problem is not the fans' fault, either.
too often we're forced to rely on reporters for information, and yes, we do get to watch the games, but we also miss all the behind-the-scenes stuff taking place 24/7.

if some of us were allowed into practices or allowed to travel with the team and blog i'm sure we could have figured out a long time ago which players had serious issues (case in point, jeff mcginnis, linton whatever-his-name-was, the williamses) and when the coaches were failing to do a good job.
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I am not a fan of that trade at all....
lol, i'm not sure i am either. it was just a stray idea.

biggest problem i see with it, obviously, is that if brand isn't able to return to his all star level because of age / injuries, then we're totally completely screwed by the length of his contract.

is that what you meant?
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We do have a 4 that CAN rebound and play D. Yi and Anderson. Anderson

never plays and we have all seen Yi put up 15/10, but we will not see that Yi

this season again, because he lost all his confidence he sucks at shooting

now. I hope the Nets can think about getting Boozer after his contract ends


this summer.
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We do have a 4 that CAN rebound and play D. Yi and Anderson. Anderson

never plays and we have all seen Yi put up 15/10, but we will not see that Yi

this season again, because he lost all his confidence he sucks at shooting

now. I hope the Nets can think about getting Boozer after his contract ends


this summer.
We should just pick Boozer up, and say screw it to the 2010 season "pickups". Honestly, there is as much talent this season as the 2010 season for the Nets.
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