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Old 05-25-2008, 02:52 PM   #1
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Default Teams that suck shouldn't draft for need.

So why am I seeing mock drafts with Mayo going anywhere from #4 to #7? The guy is clearly one of the top 3 players/prospects in this draft. It's Rose/Beasley/Mayo then everyone else.

I'll leave it at this. The team(s) past #2 that don't draft Mayo are going to regret it. Big time.
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Old 05-25-2008, 02:58 PM   #2
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Default Re: Teams that suck shouldn't draft for need.

You sir, should become a preacher.
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Pretty much true in all cases.
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Default Re: Teams that suck shouldn't draft for need.

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So why am I seeing mock drafts with Mayo going anywhere from #4 to #7? The guy is clearly one of the top 3 players/prospects in this draft. It's Rose/Beasley/Mayo then everyone else.

I'll leave it at this. The team(s) past #2 that don't draft Mayo are going to regret it. Big time.
because people are guessing what the teams will do,not what they should do
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Old 05-25-2008, 03:23 PM   #5
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Default Re: Teams that suck shouldn't draft for need.

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So why am I seeing mock drafts with Mayo going anywhere from #4 to #7? The guy is clearly one of the top 3 players/prospects in this draft. It's Rose/Beasley/Mayo then everyone else.

I'll leave it at this. The team(s) past #2 that don't draft Mayo are going to regret it. Big time.

EXACTLY!!! That's what I try to say too to everyone. It doesn't mean s*** if guard is your deepest position if none of your guards are not good enough.
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Old 05-25-2008, 04:17 PM   #6
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Default Re: Teams that suck shouldn't draft for need.

Right.

#1 is Kenyon Martin
#2 is Stromile Swift
#3 is Darius Miles

Thatīs how you draft. Oh wait...
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Default Re: Teams that suck shouldn't draft for need.

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Right.

#1 is Kenyon Martin
#2 is Stromile Swift
#3 is Darius Miles

Thatīs how you draft. Oh wait...
According to wiki...the draft shouldve went..
1. Michael Redd
2. Hedo Turkoglu
3. Mike Miller
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Old 05-25-2008, 06:27 PM   #8
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Default Re: Teams that suck shouldn't draft for need.

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According to wiki...the draft shouldve went..
1. Michael Redd
2. Hedo Turkoglu
3. Mike Miller
Which still isn't very good. What a hideous draft that was. You know there's only been 3 All Star appearences from that draft (and I really feel uncomfortable about that considering one of them is Jamaal Magloire). I mean, you can't really fault any teams for who they drafted considering how terrible of a draft it was.
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2000 was disgustingly bad. 12 first rounds picks (I think) are already out of the league.
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2000 was disgustingly bad. 12 first rounds picks (I think) are already out of the league.
Just glancing at it, I think 15 essentially didn't play last season (that includes Chris Mihm and DeMarr Johnson who played 23 and 5 games respectively and Mihm didn't even play the season before and I'm not even sure if Magloire should be counted as he only played in 31 games and averaged a pathetic 9.2 minutes per game). Not only that, but only four first round picks are averaging over 30 minutes a game (Martin, Miller, Turkoglu, and Stevenson).
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Old 05-26-2008, 03:13 AM   #11
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Default Re: Teams that suck shouldn't draft for need.

First, I don't agree that Mayo is the clear #3 in the draft, I think that goes to Bayless, but I also don't think picking for need is that bad when guys are so close. I personally think Bayless, Mayo, and Lopez are about equal in terms of potential, with Lopez obviously being bumped up to that level because of his position. To me I could understand any of them going 3, 4, or 5 in any order. If they think Lopez is on the same level as Mayo, why not take him?

But I do agree with this theory 9 out of 10 times. It is why I think the Bulls should take Rose despite having Hinrich and no post scoring, and why I think the Grizz should take Mayo even though they have Miller (and a slew of other young gaurds) and no one decent inside. I do however think this draft is full of average players and I think it is interesting that the 2000 draft is brought up because I don't think this class will be a whole lot better. Those first 3 drafts of the 00's were pretty bad, and I think this class has better guys at the top of the board, but not nearly as good overall as the last 5 drafts.

That is why I think this year is the perfect year to trade out if you are in the mid/late lottery and to move up and pick some pretty decent role players if you are a good team. Like if the Rockets could move up and grab Love to help them run the same offense Adleman had in Sacramento, the Suns have a great pick to get a need based player when there will be some good prospects still on the board, and I could even see the Jazz trying to move up to get a guy like Alexander to replace AK-47 to try to get over the hump in the Western Conference. Just think the Jazz could trade AK-47 and next years #1 to Portland to get Alexander. Then they draft Lopez at 23 and all of a sudden they have a young core of Williams, Brewer, Alexander, Lopez, and Almond. That is not bad at all looking at the next 5 or 6 years.

Sorry about the rant, I do agree with the theory put forth in this topic, but I don't agree that it makes Mayo the clear #3 pick at all.
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Default Re: Teams that suck shouldn't draft for need.

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According to wiki...the draft shouldve went..
1. Michael Redd
2. Hedo Turkoglu
3. Mike Miller

Well, Nets went to the finals twice, and Martin was an important player in those teams, so I won't say they did a mistake.
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:52 PM   #13
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First, I don't agree that Mayo is the clear #3 in the draft, I think that goes to Bayless, but I also don't think picking for need is that bad when guys are so close. I personally think Bayless, Mayo, and Lopez are about equal in terms of potential, with Lopez obviously being bumped up to that level because of his position. To me I could understand any of them going 3, 4, or 5 in any order. If they think Lopez is on the same level as Mayo, why not take him?

But I do agree with this theory 9 out of 10 times. It is why I think the Bulls should take Rose despite having Hinrich and no post scoring, and why I think the Grizz should take Mayo even though they have Miller (and a slew of other young gaurds) and no one decent inside.

That is why I think this year is the perfect year to trade out if you are in the mid/late lottery and to move up and pick some pretty decent role players if you are a good team. Like if the Rockets could move up and grab Love to help them run the same offense Adleman had in Sacramento,

Sorry about the rant, I do agree with the theory put forth in this topic, but I don't agree that it makes Mayo the clear #3 pick at all.

No, completely disagree. The Rockets do not need another low athleticism, undersized PF. We have Scola and Landry who combine to be more than adequate considering they are good-great players in their own right and that they play alongside Yao Ming.

The Rockets need an athletic 2-3 that can hit the open shot, defend, and basicly create a few plays so that McGrady doesn't have to the entire game. I'm thinking more along the lines of Brandon Rush, etc.

My dream scenario, however, is that the Rockets move up and draft O.J. Mayo for our PG spot. I believe he is absolutely the 3rd best player talent-wise. Possible second in the long run over Derrick Rose because O.J. Mayo will continually improve and possible overtake him in a few years. Beasley is easily the most talented in my eyes.
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Dont worry Minny Has its eyes set for Kevin Love . Mchale doesnt regret anything he does it us (fans) who regrets mchale for being a gm
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Old 05-28-2008, 02:43 AM   #15
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I agree with the Rockets picks, but Love is more talented than anyone the Rockets have, and I was thinking his passing would remind Adelman of Webber and Divac. I'm not saying I want it to happen, just using it as an example of teams maybe moving up to get guys that are need picks when teams are usually just getting the best player at that point in the draft.

And I really, really hope the Rockets don't get Mayo to be their PG. He is less of a PG than Francis. He is actually much closer to Mobley than Francis for that matter.

I like Rush, Douglas-Roberts, Walker, and if they fell Batum or Budinger for the Rockets.
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