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Old 06-11-2008, 05:50 PM   #16
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I think the lane drill consists of starting on the baseline (or FT line, doesn't matter), and then there being 6 cones along the lane, one at each corner of the lane, then one on either side of the mid-way point. You do the side to side feet sliding defensive principle along the lane, bending over to touch each cone, and it's up and down the lane, not just one way. I think I remember seeing some videos of guys doing it, could be wrong.
Ohhh yeah i've seen videos of that just didn't know that was the name of it.
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:35 PM   #17
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Try telling that to Barkley who was what, 6"5?
Danny Fortson who is what, 6"6?
Congrats, you found the exceptions that prove the rule.

I never said every single great power forward is 6'9"-6'11".

But most are.

Charles Barkley compensated for his lack of height with several things:

-Hall of Fame ability.
-Weighing as much, or more, than most of his much taller counterparts, while maintaining excellent athleticism.
-Being able to play either forward spot.


Undersized power forwards can find a spot in the league. But it's usually not a starring role. If Blake Griffin is 6'10", he has a much better chance at being a star than if he's 6'7 1/2".
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Old 06-11-2008, 06:51 PM   #18
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Skill beats height any day of the week.
And a skilled 6'10" guy will usually beat a skilled 6'8" guy.

You're creating a false dichotomy here. No one's arguing "skill v. height." You usually need both.

The point is, Blake Griffin is a straight-up power forward. He doesn't have the perimeter game Beasley has. Beasley is worth a top-3 pick in a good draft no matter how tall he actually is, because even if he doesn't have the size to be a low-post anchor he is skilled enough to be a Melo-like small forward.

Blake Griffin's size is more important. He won't be able to play small forward. As I said, he's flat-out a 4. That's it. He'll need to make drastic developments in his game, particularly in his jump shot, if he isn't close to 6'10", like David West, Carlos Boozer and Elton Brand all did.

I'm not saying he can't. I'm just saying he has to do it.

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Height doesn't mean sh!t when you can do this...
It matters when you're matched up with Tim Duncan, Amare Stoudemire or Dirk Nowitzki.

It matters when you're guarding NBA power forwards and centers on a nightly basis.

Again, quit creating this false dichotomy. If size didn't matter, they wouldn't measure them. It sounds nice and wonderful to say it doesn't matter, that skill is the only thing that matters.

It's just not true.

If you only have size, you damn well better know how to use it. If you only have skill, you damn well better have a helluva lot of it to overcome your lack of size.

If you're a Top 5 pick in the NBA Draft, you should have both. And yes, I realize there are exceptions to this. I realize there have been undersized players picked very high. In most cases, they were extraordinarily skilled and it truly didn't matter how big they were.

What you need to convince me of is that Blake Griffin is so overwhelmingly skilled that it doesn't matter if he's 6'7", 6'8" or 6'10". And I'm not convinced of that. He'd be a Top 5 pick in this draft if he was.

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Old 06-11-2008, 06:59 PM   #19
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just something to add...

griffin beat beasley in the '07 mcdonalds dunk contest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPzYq...eature=related

not that it really means anything though
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Old 06-11-2008, 07:12 PM   #20
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Skill beats height any day of the week. Griffin has the strength and the skills to be a great player in the NBA...but no way in hell is he 6'9", I am pretty sure he is about the same height as Beasley if not a little shorter. 6'8" with shoes is fair.

Height doesn't mean sh!t when you can do this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ugGOjUwlCY

Straight blasted Derrick Rose
Straight fouled Derrick Rose.
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Old 06-12-2008, 04:13 AM   #21
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Try telling that to Barkley who was what, 6"5?
Danny Fortson who is what, 6"6?

Barkley always claimed various heights under 6'5'....I've heard him say 6'4", 6'4 1/2", 6'4 3/4" ect. Barkley was really a legit 6'6" though that's why his mugshot showed him at 6'7"/6'8" in shoes and that's also why he's barely shorter than Magic Johnson's who is atleast 6'7".

Fortson measured 6-7 1/4 at the 1997 pre-draft camp and he didn't exactly have a long great career.
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Barkley always claimed various heights under 6'5'....I've heard him say 6'4", 6'4 1/2", 6'4 3/4" ect. Barkley was really a legit 6'6" though that's why his mugshot showed him at 6'7"/6'8" in shoes and that's also why he's barely shorter than Magic Johnson's who is atleast 6'7".

Fortson measured 6-7 1/4 at the 1997 pre-draft camp and he didn't exactly have a long great career.
10 Years isn't a long career by NBA standards
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Somebody pull up a picture of Beasley guarding Michael Beasley last year,because when I saw that game I could've swore Griffin looked about the same height as Beasley.
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You cant tell players actual height watching them on TV.
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You certainly can project them.
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The first 5 of those he averaged 25.8 mpg. The last 5 he averaged 12.9 mpg. So no, I wouldn't put as someone who had a long, great career.
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Charles Barkley compensated for his lack of height with several things:

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-Being able to play either forward spot.
Excellent point. Blake can ball, he's legit.
On the dunk contest, photo, listed heights, Serge Ibaka is 6'10", Blake Griffin is 6'10", Dezon 6'7", Mcgee 7'0"

However Blake looks shorter than Serge Ibaka. Hmmm....
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