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Old 06-10-2008, 12:29 PM   #16
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Being a leader doesn't mean much at all compared to being a player. Anybody can lead. Only a few players in history can drop 21 second-half points on the greatest defensive professional basketball team known to mankind.



He may take 2-3 plays off the entire game, but when you are chasing Allen through multiple screens, guarding Pierce after that, and watching fools on your own team getting abused by the other team's 9th and 10th men, it's really not that big of a deal. Also, he had his back to Powe because he didn't expect his own teammates to be dumb enough to let a PF cross the half-court line with nobody else making an effort to stay in front of him. Bottom line is if Radmanovic stays in front of Powe (like he should have), Kobe doesn't need to be involved in that sequence.



Wrong.



If some people believe that Leon Powe plowing through Luke Walton and making Radmanovic look like a lazy fool is Kobe Bryant's fault, they can continue to do so. They'll still be wrong.

You don't get it at all.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:35 PM   #17
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Who the hell is Curt Schilling?
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:17 PM   #18
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But wait,according to the media Kobe "changed" this year.

Jordan was the same but not during the game, he was smarter
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:32 PM   #19
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How did that "finger-pointing" work out after he was taped saying that Bynum should have been shipped out for Kidd? It resulted in a 7.8 ppg 5.9 rpg 1.1 apg 56 FG% center averaging a double-double and 2+ blocks per game on 64 FG% this year. Do you think Bynum would be where he is today if he hadn't been humiliated like that? Of course not.

Trashing your underachieving teammates IS inspiring them.

Also, Kobe Bryant was the reason they made that comeback, as he scored 21 2nd half points on the best defense in the league.

You do realize Kobe did not say that to motivate Bynum, right? He didn't know he was being taped and he certainly didn't know it would make it's way to the internet. That wasn't motivation.
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:04 PM   #20
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And I got flamed for 9 pages when I said that it didn't seem like Kobe was very well liked by his teammates on a personal level.

I still don't say it as a knock against Kobe. He is intense and a fierce competitor.

But again, I'm betting the dude is still the prick he's always been.
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:09 PM   #21
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It was because Mitch Kupchak decided not to trade a player putting up 8 ppg and 6 rpg for the greatest PG of this generation. At the time, many people, including myself, thought Kupchak was a fool because of it. Then came the Kobe Video (imo, one of the greatest videos of an NBA player ever), Kobe making a fool out of Bynum, and months later, a brand new, motivated 13/10/2/64 FG% center. Without being humiliated like that, Bynum would never have become the player he is today. Thatís called leadership.

No. That's the opposite of leadership. It just happened to have desirable results. Kobe got caught on tape being a backstabbing phony and you think that's leadership.
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:15 PM   #22
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Big ****ing deal. God damn people are naive. Emotions are high during games, its nothing personal and I'm sure none of the players take it that way. They're a pretty close group anyways.
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:16 PM   #23
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kobz is 2 focused on trying to be like jordan and trying to be the big superstar rather than just winning the game. he plays with the purpose of being the hero, rather than being the winning team
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:17 PM   #24
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kobz is 2 focused on trying to be like jordan and trying to be the big superstar rather than just winning the game. he plays with the purpose of being the hero, rather than being the winning team

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner...
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:19 PM   #25
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How can you be 100% certain that Kobe Bryant didnít know he was being taped? Has it ever occurred to you that Kobe Bryant and those two kids might have planned this whole thing from the start? Chances are, Kobe Bryant doesnít care what fans of players/teams who are worse than him and the Lakers think, so he knew heíd take the flack for it once Bynum developed into the player he wanted him to be.

Leadership is all about winning, doing whatever it takes to win. Great leaders find ways to make other players better. By trashing him in the off-season and saying his ass should have been shipped out for a washed up, 40-year-old has-been who wouldnít have even made the playoffs if he had stayed in the East, Kobe Bryant made Andrew Bynum a better basketball player. I donít care much for leadership (I prefer on-court impact, stats, awards, etc. instead), but you have to admit that it is the main reason Bynum has one of the brightest futures in the league.

I see why you're a big fan of Kobe's.
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:20 PM   #26
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kobz is 2 focused on trying to be like jordan and trying to be the big superstar rather than just winning the game. he plays with the purpose of being the hero, rather than being the winning team

Whats his teammates excuse? Team plays soft downlow. Like a bunch of pillows. MJ couldnt make them tougher. He just limit the FT disparity.
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:23 PM   #27
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Whats his teammates excuse? Team plays soft downlow. Like a bunch of pillows. MJ couldnt make them tougher. He just limit the FT disparity.

They were too busy watching their "leader" turn his back on penetrating power forwards and not helping on defense all game long. So they "followed" his lead.
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:20 PM   #28
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They were too busy watching their "leader" turn his back on penetrating power forwards and not helping on defense all game long. So they "followed" his lead.
Would you help off of ray allen to stop leon ****ing powe from driving to the basket? Only a YMCA player would do that.
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:39 PM   #29
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Kobe was on the floor when he did it!

leon powe steps up!

Look at how Kobe plays defense at the 0:55 mark and then look again at the coast-to-coast dunk by Powe. Kobe was out there. Pause at 1:05 and take a good look at Kobe's back as Powe powers his way past him to the hoop.
Dude, watch it again. You really think it was Kobe's responsibility to stop the ball? Radmanovic should have stopped Powe at half court, and then Pau and Sasha were in CLEAR position to help and maybe even take the charge, but they stood and watched. Kobe was up on his man. Usually when you guard your guy, you assume the help defense and the player responsible for stopping the ball can stop a 6'10 power forward with no handles to run down the middle coast to coast for a dunk.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:56 PM   #30
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Would you help off of ray allen to stop leon ****ing powe from driving to the basket? Only a YMCA player would do that.

It's called help defense. And yes, you stop the ball if he's driving right past you on the way to the basket.
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