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Old 06-16-2008, 06:59 PM   #1
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Default Keith Brumbaugh Will Be Better Than Michael Beasley

I'm shocked as to how theres been no mention of him on this forum,but I'm going to tell you this a week before the NBA Draft that Keith Brumbaugh is better and will have a better career than Michael Beasley.

I've said before about Michael Beasley that he's a tweener foward who lacks the footwork and postmoves to become a top PF due to his size at 6'7 and that comes from him not being coached under a great coaching staff throughout his career and having someone tell him that he is a 4 and help work with him.People forget that guys like Carlos Boozer,David West,etc.. who are somewhat smaller compared to other NBA PF's did at least 3 years in college under great coaching staffs that set them on the right path into where they are today.

Michael Beasley was a great college player,but he played Center and was the center of their offense on a level we haven't seen collegiately since Glenn Robinson was at Purdue.

Beasley doesn't look to pass,and doesn't make good decisions with the ball and also is a poor ballhandler which will prevent him from driving to the basket unless the lane is open for a dunk.This along with the fact he isn't conditioned to the point where he can get up and down the court the entire game,Beasley jogs up the court in an effort to save his energy but he'll give you a good 5 minutes where he plays his ass off and usually thats at the start of the game.

I think you'll see next season Beasley struggle against NBA level PF's and with that he will eventually begin to resort to his 15 footer and his 3 point shot which he may become too comfortable with and become similar to Al Harrington as I've mentioned before.

Keith Brumbaugh is a beast simply put,he's a 6'9 Point Foward who can attack the basket and get to the line with ease against anyone.He averaged 36/10/6/5 per game at Hillsborough.Nobody has ever questioned his talent,as he was a 5* recruit out of high school but the only question was if he were ever going to be free from trouble to do so.There is no weakness in Keith's game whatsoever,he can do anything asked of him but the real question is whether or not a team can take a chance on him and allow him to be a contributer immediately,if not then he'll pretty much **** on the D-League.

I see Keith's ceiling is that of a taller Dwyane Wade,he can put the ball on the court and attack the basket with the tenacity of D-Wade and take the contact and utilize his FT shooting ability and has the intelligence to scout the ballhandlers eyes while on defense allowing him to get in the perfect position to intercept a pass.

Keith's motivation is that of an underdog and from all that he's been through and the life he's come from there should be nothing to stop his drive to prove everyone wrong.

1/2 of the time I'm right when I get these feelings about players or teams,but this one is going to pay off and I plan to bring this thread back up every couple of weeks while all of you hop on the Keith Brumbaugh bandwagon and claim "Oh,I can't believe nobody told us how good he was".
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:10 PM   #2
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Default Re: Keith Brumbaugh Will Be Better Than Michael Beasley

Point Foward? Brumbaugh is a shooting guard. Why compare him to Beasley? He may be the steal of the draft, but to compare him to Beasley is a bit ridiculous.
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:17 PM   #3
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Point Foward? Brumbaugh is a shooting guard. Why compare him to Beasley? He may be the steal of the draft, but to compare him to Beasley is a bit ridiculous.
Brumbaugh will be better than Beasley,Budinger,Alexander,Greene,etc.

Brumabugh is a 2 but he's a Point Foward,and I think eventually he'll settle into the 3 on the right team.

He lists himself as a 2 because it helps him in which he's viewed as a tall SG rather than list himself as a 3 in which he'll be considered an underweight SF without good wingspan or strength.
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:21 PM   #4
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Isn't he 22 going to 23? and has been arrested several times?

Now that's a huge risk. If he's so good why isn't anyone talking about him?
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Brumbaugh will be better than Beasley,Budinger,Alexander,Greene,etc.

Brumabugh is a 2 but he's a Point Foward,and I think eventually he'll settle into the 3 on the right team.

He lists himself as a 2 because it helps him in which he's viewed as a tall SG rather than list himself as a 3 in which he'll be considered an underweight SF without good wingspan or strength.
Budinger???

He will definitely be better than Budinger. What scares me about this kid is the fact that he played for a junior college. There are good players but not like at a D1 college where he would have gone up against alot tougher competition. Didn't this kid average like 41 points in 7 or 8 games this season?
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Isn't he 22 going to 23? and has been arrested several times?

Now that's a huge risk. If he's so good why isn't anyone talking about him?
Do you know the name of the school he played for? Me either and that's why he isn't getting much hype.
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Old 06-16-2008, 07:29 PM   #7
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Budinger???

He will definitely be better than Budinger. What scares me about this kid is the fact that he played for a junior college. There are good players but not like at a D1 college where he would have gone up against alot tougher competition. Didn't this kid average like 41 points in 7 or 8 games this season?
JC>1/2 of D1

JC basketball is made up of a lot of good athletes but they have to go to a JC for one reason or another but the competition level in a lot of these schools,espescially those in the south,west,and some in the midwest is very good.

I'm pretty sure the talent level is on the level of any conference outside of the BCS powers.

I think the main thing about those schools in D1 is that they have more size than JC teams,I've seen a lot of JC games and typically the tallest guy on the court is maybe 6'7 and some rare ocassions there may be a guy who's 6'9 or 6'10.
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Do you know the name of the school he played for? Me either and that's why he isn't getting much hype.
Hillsborough Community College.

He also isn't getting as much attention because he didn't test out to be a great athlete and his wingspan was poor for his height at 6'9.

He also didn't have a good camp in Orlando,but what matters is when the game is on the line and he shows up to play.

I think the only realistic chance for him is at #57 to San Antonio.
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Interminator this thread is ridiculous. Im not taking a shot at you, but seriously bro...

Brumbaugh better than Beasley???? Thats absolutely crazy. Brumbaugh prolly won't even make it in the NBA. Remember Qyntel Woods??? Was a projected top 10 pick despite being a JUCO player and is already out of the NBA. I don't see it happening man.
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Interminator this thread is ridiculous. Im not taking a shot at you, but seriously bro...

Brumbaugh better than Beasley???? Thats absolutely crazy. Brumbaugh prolly won't even make it in the NBA. Remember Qyntel Woods??? Was a projected top 10 pick despite being a JUCO player and is already out of the NBA. I don't see it happening man.
Qyntel Woods is out of the league because Qyntel Woods was stupid/immature.

What makes you think Michael Beasley is not the next Billy Owens?
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Qyntel Woods is out of the league because Qyntel Woods was stupid/immature.

What makes you think Michael Beasley is not the next Billy Owens?
And you don't see a valid comparison with Brumbaugh??????
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And you don't see a valid comparison with Brumbaugh??????
Nope.

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Keith Brumbaugh: Just worked out with the Detroit Pistons and I am currently in New Orleans (Wednesday) working out with the Hornets. I had a great experience playing against the Chinese Junior National Team in Houston the other day and I look forward to the remainder of my workouts. This is a great time and a tremendous learning experience.

How are your preparing for the draft in terms of conditioning? and mentally?

KB: I have a great relationship with John Lucas, so I have been working out with John in Houston who has been huge for me. He really pushes you. I am extremely focused right now.

About the workouts... Are they all the same or do they change from team to team?

KB: Usually a little different, team to team, but it’s great going up against guys from around the country and being able to measure yourself. Everything has been totally first class.

Some scouts compare you to Tayshaun Prince: lefty, 6-foot-9 tall, you play the 2/3 spot... Do you agree?

KB: Wow... That’s a great honor to even be compared to a player like Tayshaun. Obviously, I have a long way to go before I can even place myself anywhere near his level, but I feel like I am a natural scorer who brings versatility and have a good feel for the game.

Have you received any feedback from the teams so far?

KB: Clearly, I was disappointed that the Orlando camp did not go better for me. That week was a great learning experience for me. I did not play up to my ability that week, but this is a long process where I plan on redeeming myself leading up to the draft and giving people a real feel for my true potential. But I know that I need to keep moving, keep working hard and show teams that I do bring a lot to the table in terms of my basketball skill. I have enjoyed speaking with several NBA guys who have been very encouraging and tell me that I just need to keep playing and prove that the past is behind me. They have said some really nice things about my upside and versatility, so I am just taking this process day by day and trying to get better each day.

What are your best skills? And the ones where you have room to improve?

KB: I would say my best skill is my shooting ability and my ballhandling for my size, my court vision and creating mismatch problems due to my size at my position.... I would say my most immediate need for improvement is my upper body strength and my defense.

You averaged 35 ppg in junior college. How did Coach Derrick Worrels help you at the Hillsborough Community College?

KB: Coach Worrels was a huge help. He believed in me, trusted me. Taught me so much about life. Me and coach have a great relationship, so important for any young player to have a coach who really cares in his corner.

Do you keep in touch with anyone you met when you played at DeLand High School, the place where you became somewhat of a star in the making?

KB: I keep in close contact with my high school coach. He was another great influence in my life. I owe him so much. He always believed in me and had great confidence in me.

All the problems you had in the recent past, especially the arrests and withdrawing from Oklahoma State... What have you learned from them?

KB: I learned to surround myself with positive people and keep my circle small and be careful who you trust. I learned how important it is to do the right thing and make smart choices. I learned how important family is… And I learned to take responsibility for your actions and how important it is to learn from your mistakes. I have learned that being a father is the most special thing in the world and I care about giving my daughter the best life possible.

You said that your 17-month-old daughter, Deliah, has been a motivating force. Is there anything else that has motivated you to change?

KB: The biggest motivating factor is knowing that I never want to live through hard times again. I don’t want to live in the past, I want to move forward and show people that I have really grown up and learned from mistakes. I come from a college-educated family who I have learned to lean on quite a bit. Bottom line, I want my daughter to be proud of me and think of me always in a positive way. I want to set positive examples for my daughter. She is the driving force for everything I do. She is my world and I just want the best for her and my family.

Reports say that you have the talent to be a first-round pick, but first you must overcome all of the negatives in the minds of NBA executives. Do you agree?

KB: I definitely realize that I dug myself a hole because of my past mistakes. I look forward to teams getting to know me better and see that I have really matured and have incredible passion for the game of basketball. I have one goal in mind now and this is to be the best player I can be and have success at the next level NBA teams are interested in you.

Draft partners like Ty Lawson think that you are NBA-bound. But as Kevin Pritchard said, they are going to "talk with coaches, classmates, academic counselors, trainers, teachers"... As many people as they can who have been around you, like they do with every prospect. Does it bother you or it's just part of the draft process?

KB:Ty Lawson is one of the best point guards I have played with and I appreciate this compliment very much. Teams doing background checks and learning more about a player’s character goes with the territory. I understand this is a business and they have every right to do whatever they need to do to make the best decision possible. So no, this does not bother me. Me, more than a lot of other guys will be subject to more scrutiny. I understand this and can appreciate how much work has to go into evaluating hundreds of players.

You said that you're not worried if you make the NBA or not. If not, will you consider playing overseas or would you rather play in the D-League?

KB: Playing in the NBA has always been my dream. Maybe I pushed the issue in the past too soon, but I do want to be a part of the NBA. I am a basketball player and will work as hard as I can to get there. If I do not make a roster right away, then I will keep my head up and report to the D-League or overseas to keep improving and fight for my dream. I care about getting better and will work every day to become the best I can be.

http://*********.com/interviews/brumbaugh_barrigon.htm

The guy has put his past behind him and has matured,something nobody mentioned about with Qyntel Woods or had any reason to believe he had matured.That's why he fell as far he did and become a dedicated contributer of the Jailblazers.
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Liar. STFU. Better than Beasley why would you even waste a breathe to say that?
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:57 PM   #14
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So if Brumbaugh doesn't even makes a NBA roster (official roster, not summer league roster) will you admit you are talking out of your ass? Or that you are really easy to impress?

BTW, yes, back in the day there were a handful of articles about how Qyntel Woods "had matured and left behind the immaturities", much like the one posted above, and even some more convincing.
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Better than Beasley? haha, we will see about that.
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