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Old 06-21-2008, 07:12 PM   #46
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Default Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley

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at 6 foot 7...come on now. He's a tweener. Chicago already has enough of those. It's Rose all day.

He's not 6'7.
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Old 06-21-2008, 07:18 PM   #47
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Default Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley

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..... If you were to pick best fits in the league for Rose, the Bulls would easily be in the bottom 10.
And if the same was done for Mike Beasley the Bulls would be in the bottom five.

My initial comment was about who between Mike Beasley and Derrick Rose was a better fit. Never said anything about either guy being a GOOD fit.
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Old 06-21-2008, 07:40 PM   #48
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And if the same was done for Mike Beasley the Bulls would be in the bottom five.

My initial comment was about who between Mike Beasley and Derrick Rose was a better fit. Never said anything about either guy being a GOOD fit.

And that's what you need to come to grips with. The Bulls have a far more adequate PG than they do anyone who can score with the shot clock winding down...the former Rose would provide...the latter Beasley.

It's pretty obvious to anyone who has seen them more than a couple of times over the last two or three seasons.
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Old 06-21-2008, 07:57 PM   #49
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And that's what you need to come to grips with. The Bulls have a far more adequate PG than they do anyone who can score with the shot clock winding down...the former Rose would provide...the latter Beasley.

It's pretty obvious to anyone who has seen them more than a couple of times over the last two or three seasons.

...or who didnīt watch them last season, considering Hinrichīs performance.

With the #1, you take the best talent available, and think about the consequences later. They can still trade Hinrich if they draft Rose...
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Old 06-21-2008, 08:11 PM   #50
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And that's what you need to come to grips with. The Bulls have a far more adequate PG than they do anyone who can score with the shot clock winding down...the former Rose would provide...the latter Beasley.

It's pretty obvious to anyone who has seen them more than a couple of times over the last two or three seasons.
Re-read my postings in this thread and see if you can finally understand my point because you still have not gotten what I've been saying.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...4&postcount=15
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...2&postcount=20
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...9&postcount=30
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...7&postcount=47


Let me summarize my point through out this thread, the Chicago Bulls are a bad fit for both players. However, the Bulls are less of a bad fit for Derrick Rose.
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Old 06-21-2008, 09:30 PM   #51
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Everyone knows that Derrick Rose is a nice player, but just like he himself admitted a month ago, Michael Beasley is a way better player than him. Besides, the Bulls already have a not-too-bad backcourt and they badly need a inside scorer like Beasley. In a word, Beasley fits better in the current Bulls team than Rose. As a consequence, I'd say the Bulls will regret their decision if they do take Rose over Beasley during this draft. Seriously, why do people think the Bulls would draft Rose? Just 'cause he's from Chicago?

No, the Bulls have a terrible back court with Hinrich, Hughes, Gordon and Sefolosha. If they draft Rose they can use Hughes, re-sign Gordon and Hinrich and try and trade for a big man like Elton Brand. Even if they don't, if Rose can play up to his potential and be nearly as good as Chris Paul I think he turns Sefolosha, Tyrus Thomas, Deng, Noah and even Gordon into all-star kind of players.
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Old 06-21-2008, 09:33 PM   #52
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Default Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley

Hinrich and Ben Wallace were neck and neck for worst Bulls player of the season. And everyone on that team sucked.
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:14 PM   #53
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...or who didnīt watch them last season, considering Hinrichīs performance.

With the #1, you take the best talent available, and think about the consequences later. They can still trade Hinrich if they draft Rose...

As someone who endured watching 20 games of the Bulls live last year, I totally get what you're trying to say. I wouldn't say one is clearly the best talent, so you go with need. A point guard doesn't go from being above average to very bad in one year in his 20s like Hinrich appeared to do last year. So it's not on the PG. It's on what his role is on a team that has no creators.

So I get what you're saying.

What I don't agree with is your ability to assess basketball talent and problems on the court. It sounds blunt, and maybe it is, but there's no crime in saying I think you're way off the mark here. We can agree to disagree.
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:56 PM   #54
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I'm going to be disappointed if the Bulls draft Rose over Beasley. They need help on the lowpost not another god damn PG.
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Default Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley

Yeah, I agree with you. Bulls have too many pg/sgs.

Do you know who Michael Beasley reminded me of......Boozer.
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Old 06-22-2008, 03:59 AM   #56
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Default Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley

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Both players in question are going to disappoint seeing as both are expected to be "beasts" at their positions. Both will be fine players but considering Rose is being touted as a "game changer" and Beasley as a potential "scoring champ" people will surely be let down by what really happens.

That said, if I was in charge of Chicago's draft I'd select Derrick Rose. Vinny Del Negro was hired on to coach with absolutely no coaching experience. I'd be more comfortable giving him an athletic guard and figuring out his philosophy than giving him an inside-outside player whose effectiveness is determined by matchups.

Great post. Rose would fit better with the Bulls situation. Also it's much harder to land an elite PG while aquiring a solid big man is more realistic and plus there should be a few available in the offseason anyway. A true point gaurd like Rose don't come around often and the Bulls could be set at that position for many years.
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:05 AM   #57
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Default Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley

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Yeah, I agree with you. Bulls have too many pg/sgs.

Do you know who Michael Beasley reminded me of......Boozer.

So what if they have too many gaurds at the moment that's just more pieces for a trade.

If Beasley was like Boozer than the outlook on him would be totally different and believe me a majority would pick him over Rose, but that's not the case. Since I heard he wasn't even 6'8" that totally made me not want Beasley. Plus I'm comfortable with the Bulls developing frontcourt and how Rose could make them really good soon.

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Old 06-22-2008, 11:27 AM   #58
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So what if they have too many gaurds at the moment that's just more pieces for a trade.

If Beasley was like Boozer than the outlook on him would be totally different and believe me a majority would pick him over Rose, but that's not the case. Since I heard he wasn't even 6'8" that totally made me not want Beasley. Plus I'm comfortable with the Bulls developing frontcourt and how Rose could make them really good soon.

Beasley will be better than Boozer. He's better at everything except for rebounding, which can be easily developed. Did everyone forget Beasley just beat Durants historic College #'s playing at the PF position?! Beasley's fundamentals at this stage are WAY better than Durants were.


If they draft Rose then Hinrich has to be moved. They already pay Hinrich like a franchise PG.
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:31 PM   #59
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Default Re: The Bulls will regret their decision if they draft Rose over Beasley

well i got news for you all rose didnt practice for heat so our dreams of beasley can be squashed now.
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:33 PM   #60
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hell mayo would even be a good fit on the bulls it could get rid of gordan's non dribbling ass. i wish there was a youtube film of how many times gordan fell down or lost the ball in clutch situations.
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