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Old 07-01-2008, 08:38 PM   #16
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You don't think Kansas will start Markieff Morris as well? I played against both these guys in high school, Markieff can play the 4 and Marcus can play the 3 even though they're 6'10 and 6'9. If Kansas goes with this lineup, they're going to be dangerous.

Looking forward to seeing how BJ Mullens does in Ohio State and another guy I played against in high school, Tyreke Evans.
I honestly haven't seen the Morris twins play a lick of basketball even though they're from nearby. Wasn't sure if either was capable of playing the 3, figured they were both big guys. Just an assumption on my part.
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I honestly haven't seen the Morris twins play a lick of basketball even though they're from nearby. Wasn't sure if either was capable of playing the 3, figured they were both big guys. Just an assumption on my part.

Marcus is a real good ball handler and can shoot the 3 pretty well. I'd say if he plays like a Dermarr Johnson a little bit. Markieff likes to bang down low more, but he can hit the three and is good from midrange. His game is similar to Al Harrington, I would say. Should be fun to see these guys play at KU.
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16.Tennessee (Seniors Chris Lofton and JaJuan Smith leaving will hurt this teams experience and offense, but plenty is left over from last yearís 31-5 team. Junior Tyler Smith will be the leader of this team once again proving to be one of the best all around players in the country. Wayne Chism and J.P. Prince will also be asked to step up their roles. A rivals.com #7 ranking of incoming freshman should help to ease the scoring load, especially with #5 player Scottie Hopson.)

17.West Virginia (Losing lottery pick Joe Alexander is not as big a hit as many people believe. His 17ppg in 31 minutes isnít anything that incoming freshman Devin Ebanks canít replace, his rebounding wasnít spectacular, and his outside shooting was nothing special. The Big East tournament is really where he started to make a name for himself as he was inconsistent during the year, including a stretch of 5 games where he only scored an 46 points, a 9.2 average. Another Sweet 16 finish could be in the cards

18.Baylor (Baylor returns itís top 5 scorers from last seasonís surprising 21-11 team. Curtis Jerrells will look to prove again that he is one of the top guards in the country during his senior campaign. Sophomore LaceDarius Dunn will try to improve on his impressive freshman year after scoring 14ppg in limited minutes last season. Senior Kevin Rogers and Henry Dugat also give the Bears senior leadership, essential in leading a team into the tournament.)

19.Villanova (Nova returns every starter from last yearís Sweet 16 squad including great guard Scottie Reynolds. The Wildcats will need sophomores Corey Stokes and Corey Fisher to step up this season as they struggled for a big chunk of the season, Stokes coming on strong towards the end. Coach Jay Wright will look to get a larger contribution from forward Shane Clark in his senior season, as well as seniors Dwayne Anderson and Dante Cunningham. Antonio Pena, a freshman last season, was also a welcomed addition. A five game losing streak was really the scary moment for Wildcat fans as they lost to Rutgers, Notre Dame, Pitt, Syracuse, and Saint Josephís, all double-digit losses. As long as Scottie Reynolds is filling up the bucket, expect Nova to improve on its 9-9 conference record.)

20.Arizona (This is of course in the case of Brandon Jennings playing next season under Lute Olsen and not in Europe. Jennings has the potential to be a lottery pick someday and could continue the Arizona point guard tradition. Chase Budinger decided that he wasnít ready for the next step and returned to Arizona to provide scoring punch from the wing. Jordan Hill is regarded as one of the top up and coming big men in the country and is a presence on the inside. Nic Wise will be the organizer of this offense after missing 7 games last season.)

21.Memphis (Iíve seen them ranked higher, especially on espn.com at #7, but I just donít see how. How do you lose your All-American junior shooting guard, the #1 pick in the NBA draft, and the anchor of your defense to the 2nd round of the draft, and barely slip in the rankings? Robert Dozier, Antonio Anderson, and Shawn Taggart were successful as role players, but can they be the leaders of a team? Much will rely on incoming freshman Tyreke Evans and how his scoring translates to the college game. He should be successful in John Calipariís fast paced offense as he is a slasher similar to Chris Douglas-Roberts.)

22.USC (Losing last yearís star freshman OJ Mayo, not to mention Davon Jefferson, is a big hit to this offense. But there may be no other freshman more waited on than Compton Highís Demar Derozan. Derozan is rivals.comís #3 overall player, #1 overall shooting guard, and was a 30.6ppg scorer in his last year of high school. Taj Gibson should be able to progress into a reliable inside scorer after having a down year last season. Dwight Lewis and Daniel Hacket should also help with the scoring burden left behind.)

23.Wisconsin (Senior Brian Butch has graduated and left a hole in the middle, but one that can be easily filled. Wisconsin returns four of its top six scorers from last yearís 31-5, Sweet 16 team. Coach Bo Ryan is one of the best in the business and always seems to make something out of nothing. Expect Marcus Landry to have a breakout season.)

24.Oklahoma State (The surprise of this yearís top 25, expect the Cowboys to be in the thick of things in this yearís Big12 title race. A 17-16 finish was not what they wanted last year, but Oklahoma State had some memorable moments including a double-digit win over Baylor and a one-point win over eventual NCAA champion Kansas. Marcus Dove is the lone graduating senior from last yearís squad. Sweet-stroke shooter James Anderson should be able to lead the team into the tournament this year, and hopefully even further.)

25.Georgetown (The loss of seniors Roy Hibbert, Patrick Ewing Jr. and Jonathan Wallace arenít going to hurt Georgetownís stats, but will be a big loss in their leadership and team defense. No one seemed to be better in the clutch than Jonathan Wallace who made big shot after big shot, and was there a better half court option in the nation than Hibbert? DaJuan Summers, Chris Wright, Jessie Sapp, and Austin Freeman should be enough to replace the points put out by their seniors. The addition of five star recruit Greg Monroe is a big body plug in the middle to help continue the Georgetown big man tradition.)


Watch out fa them Gators!!!!
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Watch out fa them Gators!!!!
I thought about them. But with Speights gone I think their only guys over 6'10" are freshmen?
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:12 PM   #20
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i don't like all the joe bashing but i like the ranking..EVERY year the mounties are underrated and underappreciated and EVERY year they prove everyone wrong. it was actually a few weeks before the big east tourney when joe started tearing it up

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Old 07-01-2008, 10:35 PM   #21
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i don't like all the joe bashing but i like the ranking..EVERY year the mounties are underrated and underappreciated and EVERY year they prove everyone wrong. it was actually a few weeks before the big east tourney when joe started tearing it up
I knew you wouldn't. I was more trying to get my point across that he won't be missed too badly. I thought he was a good player. Just trying to get my point across D White
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I knew you wouldn't. I was more trying to get my point across that he won't be missed too badly. I thought he was a good player. Just trying to get my point across D White

hahaha..i understand
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:11 PM   #23
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hahaha..i understand
The bad part is I forgot to mention Ruoff and the boys in my WVU part so it's really incomplete. I'll have 2 edit that
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:15 PM   #24
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The bad part is I forgot to mention Ruoff and the boys in my WVU part so it's really incomplete. I'll have 2 edit that

Ruoff is underrated. And most college bball fans will know this name at season's end: Wellington Smith...athletic guy great defensive player has a knack for shot-blocking

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Good read by the way. I have UNC & Pitt #1 and #2 as well.
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Old 07-02-2008, 02:28 AM   #26
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#3!!!?? I mean, I like pressure but dang. UConn at the #3 spot. Even coach Calhoun has said it, "this is a team that has more questions than answers." On paper, my beloved Huskies are scary as all get up. Its what happens on the court that really counts.

Plus, you throw in Price's knee. Stanley Robinson leaving UConn. We are in for an interesting season.
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#3!!!?? I mean, I like pressure but dang. UConn at the #3 spot. Even coach Calhoun has said it, "this is a team that has more questions than answers." On paper, my beloved Huskies are scary as all get up. Its what happens on the court that really counts.

Plus, you throw in Price's knee. Stanley Robinson leaving UConn. We are in for an interesting season.
Is Robinson really leaving? This is the last I've heard

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2008/...-return-maybe/
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Old 08-02-2008, 09:22 PM   #28
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Nova is better than 19, book that
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:54 PM   #29
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Great list! Of course everyone has different opions -and especially in the off season - so no point to list what I think is right or wrong. One thing I'd like to bring up is the fact that yours and most other lists at this point has Notre Dame in top ten. I don't think they will be that good and here's why:

1) Schedule: Big East will be extremely tough next year, and of the top tier teams, ND has the hardest schedule. They are the only top team to play both Louisville and UConn twice. Also, they play WVU, Pitt and Syracuse only away.

2) Talent: yes they have talent, but not the kind of talent that Big East powerhouses like UConn and Louisville and Georgetown have

3) No surprise element: Last year it seemed that Harangody and McAlarney surprised everyone and teams didn't know how to stop them. But by the tournament time, oppositions had figured it out. When you shut down Harangody, you shut down ND. It was almost painful to watch them play against Washington State in the tournament. They simply didn't know what to do.

Don't get me wrong, ND are a really good team, but I think there are quite many question marks and I think a ranking nearer to 20 than 10 would be more justified.
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Nova is better than 19, book that

Their back court is good, but I think they will struggle against bigger big east teams. They made the Sweet 16 only because of the bracket. Siena and Clemson were perferct opponents for Villanova. I think they'll find it hard to finish in Big East Top 5. UConn, Pitt, WVA, Georgetown, Marqutte, NOtre Dame, Louisivlle and even Providence and Syracuse are all pretty good teams.
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