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Old 08-28-2006, 02:25 PM   #46
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Rasheed I think the Eagles will be bottom of the division again this year. I see them as a 8-8 team at best.

8-8 could happen... It would be a disaster if it did...I doubt it will due to their defensive improvement..but its possible in this division




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What's the general feeling about McNabb in Philly? If the team fails but the Cowboys go far does it look like people will call for McNabb's dome on a platter?

People have generally moved past last year..Every one here knows McNabb is the leader of the team, so fans and players are behind him 100%. If they dissapoint the fans this year, the fans will be calling for the heads of McNabb & Andy Reid...Reid has hitched himself to McNabb in a way that they are both tied together in their fates...People will be just as p*ssed at both of them...as far as management goes, I see Reid and McNabb having more lee-way with Banner & Lurie than the fans are willing to give them...I figure if the Eagles go 8-8 this year, the fans will be fed up with these two, but the front office wont be. they'd have to screw up this year and next year to make the front office consider a new direction
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Old 08-28-2006, 02:38 PM   #47
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Yeah whatever dude. I've got $9500 that says what you are saying isn't exactly accurate.

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Yeah cause being leary of jumping into a full contact practice too soon means he only cares about himself.

If any other player shows up late to a meeting and skips a team rehab session to work with his own personal rehab staff it doesn't become this big a story.

To change subjects for a second, why do you guys think the media makes TO such a big story while when Manny Ramirez does something its just called "Manny being Manny"?
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To change subjects for a second, why do you guys think the media makes TO such a big story while when Manny Ramirez does something its just called "Manny being Manny"?

To an extent. The national media tend to follow the "Manny being Manny", but local media always seem to be looking for more to get on another Manny soap opera and a lot of Sox fans are constantly *****ing about Manny. Manny deserves some of the flak he gets, but he I can't remember any injury he's had that someone hasn't accused of him of faking.

And probably the biggest reason of all, Manny doesn't play it up with the media like TO does. He basically ignores them.
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Manny is different. His weird mood swings and annual trade demands are a pain but he's never gone after a teammate like Owens went after McNabb (and Garcia before him). Owens' attacks on his QBs are awful, frankly, the kind of crap that no player should ever spew. And it's all about him, all about his desire to be the #1 most popular, praised, paid, etc. player on his team. All he wants is money and attention. "But he had a rough childhood, his grandma only let him watch PBS and he was locked in a closet after school and they spit in his mouth and he's sensitive and just wants to be loved"....

I'm sick of it. someone ought to stick a pacifier in his mouth if he wants to be a baby. Maybe that'll shut him up.

KO King, please answer this question for me: What possible justification did TO have for going after Ray Lewis the way he did? I want to hear what other excuses you have for this guy, as you appear to be his lead apologist.
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Yeah cause being leary of jumping into a full contact practice too soon means he only cares about himself.

No, but skipping practice all week, showing up the day before for the walk through and then expecting to play, that sums up TO nicely
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If any other player shows up late to a meeting and skips a team rehab session to work with his own personal rehab staff it doesn't become this big a story.
Its a story when the guy who gets raked through the coals for being a me first selfish guy, skips the team way to do things in favor of doing it his way.
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To change subjects for a second, why do you guys think the media makes TO such a big story while when Manny Ramirez does something its just called "Manny being Manny"?

Manny's actually playing hurt now(that should tell you all you need to know).
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Old 08-28-2006, 03:13 PM   #51
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What possible justification did TO have for going after Ray Lewis the way he did? I want to hear what other excuses you have for this guy, as you appear to be his lead apologist.

Actually, ray lewis started that one
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Ray Lewis immediately began bad mouthing TO when Terrell decided against playing in Baltimore...When the disses were relayed to TO, he fired a few back..

thats not to say that TO hasnt done plenty of indefensible things...that just wasnt one of them...

The worst thing I can think of is when he went on Espn and claimed Lurie and Banner had no class because they didnt celebrate/recognize his 100th touchdown..

a couple reasons why

*you never go on national TV and put the boss on blast and then expect everything to be cool when you stroll into the Nova care facility..its just a bad idea

*you minimize your own achievements when you feel the need to complain about how no-one recognized them


I think TO's worst moments come when he sits in front of interviewers on Espn and starts running his mouth....He doesnt know how to check his own lip....the stuff he says from time to time is just straight up dumb..I think that fact and the fact that most people in the NFL are very thin skinned (including TO) makes controversy out of things that really need not be that way...
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I don't recall Lewis initiating any of the trash between him and Owens. I'll look it up later, but the feud was very one-sided from what i recall.
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Old 08-28-2006, 03:58 PM   #55
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BETHLEHEM, Pa. We already know Ray Lewis can't wait for Halloween.

Now, we know Terrell Owens is looking forward to it, too.

Why Halloween?

Because that's when the Eagles host the Ravens at Lincoln Financial Field. The two teams also play a preseason game on Aug. 20 at the Linc, but it will be only the second game for each club, so neither starting unit will see much time.

To refresh your memory, in a convoluted turn of events, Owens: had his rights as a free agent revoked, was traded to the Ravens, refused to report to Baltimore and claimed he wanted to be an Eagle, filed a grievance against the NFL, then became an Eagle.

During their June minicamp, Lewis lashed out on a radio show, saying Owens, "is a man that went away from and against his word. ... Sooner or later, he's gonna have to run into me one way or the other. It's hard to respect guys that pose and do things like that."

After Owens' rebuttal "If they want to take all their frustration out on me, good. That means they're probably not going to be doing what they're supposed to be doing." Lewis responded again.

"It doesn't matter, red jersey, green jersey, purple jersey, whatever type of jersey you got on. We don't care about Terrell Owens," Lewis said. "We're not looking for him. We're coming to play the Philadelphia Eagles, anyway you want to look at it. Whether it's on Halloween or Christmas, it's still football and that's all it is. We don't care about him. I'm tired of talking about him. Who is he? Next question, please."


On Sunday, following the Eagles' morning practice that was forced indoors by rain, the subject was broached once again (by a Ravens reporter), and Owens, despite trying to downplay it, didn't disappoint. He said he spoke with Lewis at the ESPYs, but the issue didn't get cleared up.

"He was all smiles and lighthearted about it," Owens said. "I went up to him and tried to ask him what was going on. We were supposed to talk about it, but we never really got around to it."

When the two teams meet again, Lewis probably won't be smiling. Still, Owens doesn't plan on altering his game to avoid the six-time Pro Bowl middle linebacker.

"He's had some remarks about trying to scare me about coming across the middle. I've been doing it. I've made my living coming across the middle. It doesn't bother me," Owens said. "He's not the hardest hitter to every play the game of football. He's definitely a great talent. I'm not going to shy away from my style of play versus his style of play. It's not like I play running back where I'm going to face him pretty much every down. If he wants to get out there and line up at DB then, he can do that."

Owens said that if Lewis played wide receiver, he would empathize with Owens' predicament. After playing his first three seasons catching passes from Steve Young, Owens endured the last five with Jeff Garcia. To Owens, the opportuinity to play with Donovan McNabb might be worth as much as the almost $10 million signing bonus the Eagles gave him when he signed back in March.

"Besides Jerry Rice having Steve Young and Joe Montana, I've never really had a good quarterback that I could really play with on a consistent level," Owens said. "Steve Young was there he got hurt and then Jeff came in. This is something I'm really thriving off of, knowing the ability that I have and he has, and just the ability that the team has, to go further than they did last year."

Donovan McNabb has made the last four Pro Bowls and reached the NFC Championship three straight times. That's four more Pro Bowls and three more championship games than Ravens quarterbacks Kyle Boller and Anthony Wright have on their resumes.

"It was definitely a factor in me being here," Owens said. "I know Kyle Boller's not a bad quarterback, but he's an up and coming quarterback that I'm not familiar with. Anthony Wright took over in the middle of the season. My thing was, I was familiar with the West Coast offense. That quarterback situation, and my familiarity with the West Coast offense, that was a reason for me to lean more toward the Philly side.

"I have no grudges or anything with Baltimore. It was a business decision," Owens said. Everybody goes through this. For all the guys that feel slighted by that, I feel like if they were in that situation and were in my shoes, playing receiver, they would have done the same thing.

"My focus now is with the Eagles. I know there's going to be a lot of hoopla when we're getting ready to play Baltimore. Ray doesn't throw any passes. That was more of a reason for me not be on that side. I'm here. I'm happy with the team that I'm with, and we're looking to do some big things."

later that year when the two met...Lewis talked a little more trash, TO went out and mocked his celebration dance and then he took a couple shots at Ray after the game

http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet...0p.asp?ID=3526

Now that I think back...TO caught an 81 yard touch-down in his first preseason game which happened to be against the ravens also..

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Old 08-28-2006, 05:46 PM   #56
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I'm not sold on Philly being bad. They made the NFC Championship game 4 straight years with McNabb healthy and the Superbowl run was also made without TO.

I don't think McNabb was healthy for 2 of them seasons. Remember Feely came in during the end of the season and maybe for the first round of the Play-Offs. Maybe the 2nd round to??
My point is the Eagles Defense was most of the reason the Eagles were good that season McNabb went down. Man we had some nasty D's during that run. I remember the one season we let teams get loads of yards on us but come red-zone time, we were #1. I'm trying to remember that player we stopped 4 times on the goal-line. That was sweet. anyways the Eagles D is 70% more important than McNabb being healthy imo.

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Old 08-28-2006, 08:39 PM   #57
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later that year when the two met...Lewis talked a little more trash, TO went out and mocked his celebration dance and then he took a couple shots at Ray after the game

http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet...0p.asp?ID=3526

Now that I think back...TO caught an 81 yard touch-down in his first preseason game which happened to be against the ravens also..
Well, OK, he was justified there then. I stand corrected.
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My point is the Eagles Defense was most of the reason the Eagles were good that season McNabb went down. Man we had some nasty D's during that run. I remember the one season we let teams get loads of yards on us but come red-zone time, we were #1. I'm trying to remember that player we stopped 4 times on the goal-line. That was sweet. anyways the Eagles D is 70% more important than McNabb being healthy imo.
Defense is half the game, and Philly was largely about good defense, so I wouldn't disagree with the overall d being more important than McNabb, but McNabb was and is 80% of the offense...the rest being Brian Westbrook.
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TO has been a distraction and this season the media is making sure that he fails and they show how he is a distraction. I think the media is to blame (not excusing TO) for this circus act we see. What other athlete gets opening news and talks on sportscenter at 6? TO did when he "aggrivated" his hammy. TO brings it on himself but at what point does the sports media take responsibilty and say "We're not gonna give TO a stage, mic and audience"?

TO is an attention whore who is getting the attention. So wouldnt the people giving the attention just stop? Its like a troll on the board spamming threads and kids here posting in EVERY SINGLE spammed topic. Why? Ignore them. Their purpose is to get your attention, draw a reaction and laugh at you respond. You take that away and they eventually get bored, move on or try to act with some type of common sense. Same with TO/media. Too much is being made of this. Steve Smith and Sinorice Rice had hammy problems all preseason. Dont practice either. Where is the microphone then? Eh

TO is to blame but the media is as well. Ehhhh, this is becoming a distraction because of the media circus developing already.
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Learnt how to speel Aggravated diipshiite ^^

Anyways if TO keeps this up I bet JJ will eventually get rid of him. Mark my words!
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