Kaman is mostly a financial decision. Once we give Williams a big extension, I don't think we have enough money to keep Boozer around. We might be able to keep Milsap.
If I thought we could keep Boozer and Okur with Williams, I would.
This is why I don't understand WHY?!?
-no Marion for AK, would have freed us up now or next year, aka perfect timing
-Giricek for Korver, Korver could stay under contract through all the important sigings (Williams, Boozer, Okur, Milsap) while Giricek was expiring.
In a heartbeat, provided LAC sweetens the deal a bit with Knight and/or a pick. Good centers are harder to come by than good PFs, and Kaman adds defense as well as nearly keeping up with Boozer's rebounds. Of course we lose offense and some free looks for Okur, but it'd give Millsap a chance to step up and AK some minutes at his primary position.
It feels wierd to trade Boozer though. I had a lot of confidence riding on him. Kaman's defense might be what we need though. I wonder if Kaman would be more or less effective with us?
I don't think we have enough money to keep Boozer around
Jerry loves Boozer. Boozer loves money and he's probably in the best place for him basketball wise. Jazz will pay him more than anyone else(max) and give him the ball more than anyone else. He'll stay as will Harpring another fave. Collins will probably get another contract as a player/coach. The rest of the spots are up for grabs.
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This is why I don't understand WHY?!?
-no Marion for AK, would have freed us up now or next year, aka perfect timing
-Giricek for Korver, Korver could stay under contract through all the important sigings (Williams, Boozer, Okur, Milsap) while Giricek was expiring.
Korver can become a FA too. They figure they'll be able to make a move with AK or others when the time comes that they are forced to do that. They aren't about making moves just to keep up with the Jones' as they've shown time and time again.
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I wonder if Kaman would be more or less effective with us?
As long as Jerry puts him in the game which of course there is no guarantee of that with Sloan.
Jerry loves Boozer. Boozer loves money and he's probably in the best place for him basketball wise. Jazz will pay him more than anyone else(max) and give him the ball more than anyone else. He'll stay as will Harpring another fave. Collins will probably get another contract as a player/coach. The rest of the spots are up for grabs.
Korver can become a FA too. They figure they'll be able to make a move with AK or others when the time comes that they are forced to do that. They aren't about making moves just to keep up with the Jones' as they've shown time and time again.
As long as Jerry puts him in the game which of course there is no guarantee of that with Sloan.
I am afraid that chance is gone. AK's contract is an increasing one (less common for Utah signings), which makes it harder to move him every year we wait. Plus he doesn't expire until summer 2011, after everybody wants a shot at the big free agents. I would be very suprised if we get a better looking offer than Marion for AK on a player comparison level, or on a financial freedom standpoint either.
Gordon Monson of The Salt Lake Tribune: "Carlos Boozer's not Karl Malone, especially not at the defensive end, but he is the team's low-post presence, bringing 20 points and 10 rebounds every night, and in the NBA that makes him a ridiculously valuable asset. The question is: How ridiculously valuable? Boozer can opt out of his deal at the end of next season, which he likely will do, making his services available to the most attractive -- read: highest -- bidder, whose bidding might blast into the $130 million range. That's a difficult plate of biscuits for the Jazz to chew, given that they already will be paying Williams max money, well worth it, and Andrei Kirilenko the same, well ... not worth it. Add Boozer's new market value to that mix, along with the Jazz's other projected salary obligations, then consider that their payroll already rests in the low $60 million range, with the luxury-tax threshold at $71 million, and it's easy to see why the whole equation doesn't compute."
I am afraid that chance is gone. AK's contract is an increasing one (less common for Utah signings), which makes it harder to move him every year we wait.
Not necessarily. The less years he has on his deal the more attractive it can become too.
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Plus he doesn't expire until summer 2011, after everybody wants a shot at the big free agents.
That's a good point but AK might be a more realistic option for someone than Lebron.
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I would be very suprised if we get a better looking offer than Marion for AK on a player comparison level, or on a financial freedom standpoint either.
I wouldn't. They've probably had lots of other decent offers for him that we don't even know about. I don't think they need a player to replace him like Marion would have. They have people on the roster to replace him so if they can fill other needs rather it be one player or multiple players/picks/cash or just a salary dump on a team with cap space an opportunity will be there if they want.
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if we can keep Boozer and Williams, I would do it.
Depends on the price. Boozer isn't worth max but I see them giving him that if that's what it takes.
One of the great advantages we've had this year is a deep bench with millsap, miles, harpring, korver, etc. If we were to sign boozer we lose this advantage. The most appealing part about kaman is that we will have freedom to keep a deep bench (besides the fact he can actually play D).
No thanks. I like Kaman, but not if Boozer is the price to get him. Unlike many Jazz fans, I don't think Boozer is going anywhere. Here, he can get the most money, contend for a decade, and play with a once-in-a-generation point guard on a team that suits his game to a T. Why would he leave?
No thanks. I like Kaman, but not if Boozer is the price to get him. Unlike many Jazz fans, I don't think Boozer is going anywhere. Here, he can get the most money, contend for a decade, and play with a once-in-a-generation point guard on a team that suits his game to a T. Why would he leave?
I know. I used to agree. How are we going to give him the most money though?
Denver did just show that. How wise that was is unclear. We'd have to do it with AK or Okur to make it matter (possibly our midlevel guys korver and harpring). I can't imagine them letting go of AK for swapping second round picks after turning down marion.
Boozer for Kaman?
