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Old 07-22-2008, 08:32 AM   #1
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Who would you rather have on this Sixer squad?
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Don't care who's better, Sammy any time of the day
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Sammy JUST because he's a center...and Okafor wants to be a power forward.
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:33 AM   #4
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I'm tired of dalembert....especially in the playoffs. 2 games double digit points-4 games single digit. He's probably a better shot blocker than okafor, but I'm pretty sure okafor is a better straight up defender in the post. They both can run the floor well. Offensively, i'd rather have okafor. If sammy isn't allowed to get his 3/4 alley-oops per game he becomes a non-factor.
Plus his attitude concerns me. Not just because of the team canada thing, but remember during the year last year he came up with some weird statements about the Sixers/Mo. If I had the chance to...i'd swap them out and wouldn't think twice about it.
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I'm tired of dalembert....especially in the playoffs. 2 games double digit points-4 games single digit. He's probably a better shot blocker than okafor, but I'm pretty sure okafor is a better straight up defender in the post. They both can run the floor well. Offensively, i'd rather have okafor. If sammy isn't allowed to get his 3/4 alley-oops per game he becomes a non-factor.
Plus his attitude concerns me. Not just because of the team canada thing, but remember during the year last year he came up with some weird statements about the Sixers/Mo. If I had the chance to...i'd swap them out and wouldn't think twice about it.
Okafor is easily the better player...but if I'm picking for THIS team I go Dalembert. Don't want a 6'10" Okafor playing center and 6'8" power forward in Brand with 6'7" Evans coming off the bench. His height and length is helpful to us right now. Plus Okafor wants to play power forward and not center, and that doesn't help us.
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Plus his attitude concerns me. Not just because of the team canada thing, but remember during the year last year he came up with some weird statements about the Sixers/Mo. If I had the chance to...i'd swap them out and wouldn't think twice about it.
Yes, this can be a concern. But until true center comes around who has qualities that match or exceeds Sammy's, he is the best we have. The team doesn't need to weaken itself in that postition with someone undersized. We presently don't have a true backup center (like Calvin Booth) to come in when Sammy is over matched by someone like Shaq.
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How is okafor undersized at 6"10" 255, while sammy is listed at 6'11" 250? (per nba.com)

I think okafor is also smart enough that given the choice of A) being on a playoff team with someone like EB next to him or B) staying on a lame squad while playing PF it would be a no-brainer. Especially if the money was the same. It's not like he didn't play C during college.
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How is okafor undersized at 6"10" 255, while sammy is listed at 6'11" 250? (per nba.com)

I think okafor is also smart enough that given the choice of A) being on a playoff team with someone like EB next to him or B) staying on a lame squad while playing PF it would be a no-brainer. Especially if the money was the same. It's not like he didn't play C during college.
Yeah but he wants to play power forward NOW. There's 6'8" guys that play center in college. Okafor's also more of a halfcourt player. You're not going to see any of this from him.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=i639wJl91Wc

Okafor would change our style of play. Like I said...for this team I'll take Sammy.
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Yeah but he wants to play power forward NOW. There's 6'8" guys that play center in college. Okafor's also more of a halfcourt player. You're not going to see any of this from him.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=i639wJl91Wc

Okafor would change our style of play. Like I said...for this team I'll take Sammy.

C'mon dude, don't come at me with highlight reel crap. Gerald Green is full of highlight reel stuff, but he can't play. I know you watch them closely, how many times did sammy fumble passes in the paint or just not be in the right position to make a play....LOTS!

Don't get me started with the halfcourt offense either. Teams that can play a halfcourt offense are the teams that win championships. Celtics, Pistons, Spurs not Suns, GSW, Nuggets. So if you really want to win a 'ship, you'd better start becoming efficient in the halfcourt game. Running is fun to watch and will get you in the playoffs, but you'll never win the whole thing on just a running game.
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C'mon dude, don't come at me with highlight reel crap. Gerald Green is full of highlight reel stuff, but he can't play. I know you watch them closely, how many times did sammy fumble passes in the paint or just not be in the right position to make a play....LOTS!

Don't get me started with the halfcourt offense either. Teams that can play a halfcourt offense are the teams that win championships. Celtics, Pistons, Spurs not Suns, GSW, Nuggets. So if you really want to win a 'ship, you'd better start becoming efficient in the halfcourt game. Running is fun to watch and will get you in the playoffs, but you'll never win the whole thing on just a running game.
Of course the half court game wins. But in that case we might as well trade Iguodala for Rip, Young for Tayshaun. The Sixers aren't going to change their identity anytime soon, which is a running team.

Another reason I don't want Okafor is because he's running up his price right now. He doesn't want the 12 mil a year Charlotte is offering, would you give a 13/10/2 guy more than that? I know Dalembert is overpayed but damn.

I also find it a little funny that Okafor played a full 82 games when he knew he had a free agent summer coming up, but played 67 and 26 games in the seasons before. Dalembert's played 82 games 3 of his 6 years, so I'll give it to him.

I know where you're coming from dude. We all get pissed when we see Dalembert throw up a dumb shot or fumble a post entry pass. But he's still cheaper, only a year older, and his numbers aren't that far off from Okafor's even though he was playing on a less than spectacular Bobcats team. I doubt you'll see him fumble too many entry passes this year...because he won't GET any. Why pass the ball to Dalembert in the post when Brand is on the team now?

If we hadn't got Brand, I would have liked to see an Okafor/Dalembert combo as the next best thing. But now that we got Brand we're okay. As long as Dalembert does his job (offensive putbacks, weakside blocks, finishing alley oops, running the floor) then I'm satisfied.
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Sam is the 20th best center in the league. We need better; no team will ever win a ring with him as starting 5.

Dump the Dope.
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Sam is the 20th best center in the league. We need better; no team will ever win a ring with him as starting 5.

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20th? Who's the other 19?

Iglauskas
Oden
Bogut
Ming
Howard
Chandler
Duncan
Camby
Okafor
Horford
Miller
Stoudemire
Okur

Those are the guys I have better than him. The bold I think are more power forwards. Chandler is kinda iffy. They're mostly the same. And Oden hasn't played a season yet. Who else you got?
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Who else you got?

Howard
Camby
Okur
Horford
Yao
Chandler
Bogut
Duncan
Oden
Kamen
Bynum
Amare
Ilgauskas
Miller
Stoudemire
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