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Old 06-10-2006, 02:39 AM   #46
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How can this be a rumor if the deal doesn't even work out? Mo-Pete/Villanueva for Magloire/Williams doesn't work, nor does Villanueva for Magloire/Williams, or Eric Williams/Villanueva for Magloire/Williams. So all of this speculating is pointless.
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:43 AM   #47
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Getting Maglore doesnt make you win. If Maglore is soo good than he wouldved won in Bucks. The fact remains Maglore is porbably past his primes and Charlie Villanueva just started scratching his Potential. All i am saying is i dont want Maglore to sit on our bench in 3 years, well past his time and while Villanueva is blowing up. The kid is 6-11, Can shoot the lights out, excellent low post game and we saw him use both effectively last year. Many people might want you to believe stuff about him, because thats what they read on Nbadraft.net and now they think they know him. He has the work ethic and a very god learner. We saw it last year Villy and Bosh won us games, all we need a center who can block shots and grab rebounds. We can get that in Aldridge or Joel Pyrzbilla who are still young and will be on there primes for years to come ! Ohh yea we still get to keep villanueva who is excellent with Bosh or maybe he will be a valuable trading piece. This trade is really stupid for Raptors if it goes down.

It's Magloire, not Maglore dumbass.

And damn, you need to learn how to type.
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Old 06-10-2006, 06:58 AM   #48
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You must be watching the wrong sport with another guy name Morris Petersonin that sport... or the Peterson of old... and its funny a Philly fan calling the Raptors, Craptors... stop hating, just admit that you don't watch the Raptors and have no credibility ranting about their players...

Tips4 watches the Craptors more then me...so he is credible to rank about thier players? Yeah didnt think so. If what you say is something you stand by there are a shitload of teams you cant speak on. But yet you do so anyway?

The hypocrisy.
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Old 06-10-2006, 11:07 AM   #49
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I think if CV does get traded, it'll be in a massive deal involving the #1 pick. I'd love to have Magliore, but it doesnt make sense seeing as how he's a FA next summer, and we'll still have the cap room to sign him.
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Old 06-10-2006, 11:26 AM   #50
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This trade would be stupid. Is it just me or is everyone who thinks it's a good trade not a fan of the Raptors? If not all, most.

This trade is crap. Trade a budding Lamar Odom (best hope for charlie) for a center who WILL ASK FOR MAX MONEY THE ****ING YEAR AFTER?
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:47 PM   #51
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Tips4 watches the Craptors more then me...so he is credible to rank about thier players? Yeah didnt think so. If what you say is something you stand by there are a shitload of teams you cant speak on. But yet you do so anyway?

The hypocrisy.

I talk about players I haven't seen??? that is a lie... if I do talk about a player I haven't seen much, I state it... and yes Tips4 can talk about the players and give his point of view on their players because he watches... doesn't mean he is right, but his words come after watching the Raptors... would you take an advice from a chef on how nba life is or from an nba player who has experienced it...

Therein lies the difference...
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:53 PM   #52
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This trade would be stupid. Is it just me or is everyone who thinks it's a good trade not a fan of the Raptors? If not all, most.

This trade is crap. Trade a budding Lamar Odom (best hope for charlie) for a center who WILL ASK FOR MAX MONEY THE ****ING YEAR AFTER?

Odom has handles and can/has played numerous postions.

Whats to say Magloire doesnt end up a Raptor anyway signing a max deal? So why not to trade for Magloire isnt a good reason considering he just might and i say just might end up there in the future.

You get a starting Center and a 6th man guard. You now have options to draft a player who can be as good if not better then Villy with a higher ceiling.

Trade down in the draft and picking up Rudy Gay plus whatever else you get trading the #1 pick isnt bad. I dunno the kinds of offers teams are sending Toronto's ay...but for the #1 pick its gotta be appealing. And you can land a number of players...Roy, Gay, Morrison, M.Williams. Villy who?

Or you can keep Villy and go from there.
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:56 PM   #53
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I talk about players I haven't seen??? that is a lie... if I do talk about a player I haven't seen much, I state it... and yes Tips4 can talk about the players and give his point of view on their players because he watches... doesn't mean he is right, but his words come after watching the Raptors... would you take an advice from a chef on how nba life is or from an nba player who has experienced it...

Therein lies the difference...

Horrible example using the chef meathead. Tips is a dumbass and says outraegeous, ridiculous things on here. Even the other Raptor fans said he was a dumbass and was one of the Raptor fans to ignore/skip over thier posts. Some credibility there.

Gurantee my handful of games watching Mo last season and my view on him are far greater and respected then his yearly watching of Mo as a Craptor.

Nice try.
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Whats to say Magloire doesnt end up a Raptor anyway signing a max deal? So why not to trade for Magloire isnt a good reason considering he just might and i say just might end up there in the future.

Rephrase that. Makes no sense.


If you think magloire will be in Toronto anyway, then you supporting this trade is the most assanine thing I have seen all day. Basically you'd be trading villy for mo williams. You'd get magloire for ONE YEAR. Great. First round sweep AT BEST with a lower draft pick. I'm convulsing.
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Gobb no offense, but you seem to have no clue as to what Mo Pete really is.
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:59 PM   #56
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It's Magloire, not Maglore dumbass.

And damn, you need to learn how to type.

Ok you are cool !!
Whats your point really ? I can type you moron, i dont spell some words correctly but what was the point of that ? Whos this moron ? Maybe you have nothing better to do ..i can find something for you to do!

* Elton John smiling and pulling his pants down *

There you go go ahead do your job !
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Horrible example using the chef meathead. Tips is a dumbass and says outraegeous, ridiculous things on here. Even the other Raptor fans said he was a dumbass and was one of the Raptor fans to ignore/skip over thier posts. Some credibility there.

Gurantee my handful of games watching Mo last season and my view on him are far greater and respected then his yearly watching of Mo as a Craptor.

Nice try.

He may have a very good point here, some of the Raptor fans on here are very outlandish in there statements about the Raptor players. Those same posters, are the reason why Chris Bosh recieves so much hate even though he remains virtually untalked about in the national media.

A smart opinion of 10 games on a player is better then an exagerrated, inaccurate opinion of 50 games on a player. You may lose the subtle details, but atleast you are getting an accurate presentation of the player in question. I, however, am too lazy to read the entire thread, to see what this argument is in context too, so I cannot say whether or not I agree with GoBB in his opinion on the player. I was more commenting on the theory, because I found it interesting.
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Old 06-10-2006, 03:05 PM   #58
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I, however, am too lazy to read the entire thread, to see what this argument is in context too, so I cannot say whether or not I agree with GoBB in his opinion on the player. I was more commenting on the theory, because I found it interesting.

I said Mo Pete is an inconsistent player, some fans disagree. But what you posted is money in reference to my post. I dont expect any/everyone to agree with my remarks...just argue otherwise instead of the lame "watch mo games dood! until then u refrain my making posts on them! danks!".
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Old 06-10-2006, 03:12 PM   #59
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Rephrase that. Makes no sense.

You said why trade for a center who will ask for max money. I said that is silly considering its possible he could wind up there signing for max money in the future! So you complaining over what this Center will ask for is amusing as if Toronto wouldnt entertain it when that time came barring they are in a situation where a starting Center is of need. Makes alot of sense, you're just being an idiot is all. Next time i'll hold your hand when crossing the street.


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If you think magloire will be in Toronto anyway, then you supporting this trade is the most assanine thing I have seen all day. Basically you'd be trading villy for mo williams. You'd get magloire for ONE YEAR. Great. First round sweep AT BEST with a lower draft pick. I'm convulsing.

You missed the rest of the post...you dont trade villy for mo and thats that. I made the point that trading the #1 pick could bring BACK a player who is as good if not BETTER then Villy with a heigher ceiling potentially.

What makes anyone think Rudy Gay wont be better then Villy? You trade the #1 and Rudy Gay, Roy, Morrison (whomever you fance) is apart of the trade (thats key) then you're good. You just replaced the guy.

You get Maglire for one year? Best time to get a player is in their contract year. Simple, give him a deal if he produces or give him a deal before. Either way Toronto has a hole at Center. He's expressed interest in playing for them. To sit there and ignore this trade or even give it a try/thought is petty. But again I'm not surprised considering the posters here.


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Old 06-10-2006, 03:13 PM   #60
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You think the Bucks would be interested in Jason Collins plus either Illic or a first round pick, possibly mix or mate other players and picks?
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