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Old 08-01-2008, 12:54 AM   #16
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would Team USA still be the favorite to win in international competition?

Assuming they are the favourites now...
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:00 AM   #17
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Default Re: How good would Team USA be with only white players?

To all the sensitive people: I'm just making this thread because I thought it would be interesting to put one category of people into a team. I could easily make a thread about players 6'10 and under or players age 23 and under. I'm not trying to make this a black vs. white thing. If you think this thread is pointless, then just don't post here.

Anyways, back on topic, I'll add some of the players mentioned here to my original lineup:
PG Kirk Hinrich
SG Mike Miller
SF Wally Z
PF David Lee
C Brad Miller

Bench: Steve Blake, Jeff Foster, Luke Ridinou, Kevin Love, Mike Dunleavy Jr, Jason Kapono, JJ Reddick, Kyle Korver, Luke Walton

Didn't realize we have so many shooters. Would this team get dominated inside? How do they match up to power houses like Argentina and Spain?

I think these guys would do pretty good in the international game, since we have guys that are smart passers like Walton and Miller, we got a couple of hustlers in Lee and Foster, and a bunch of guys with unlimted range. This team definitely has a good chance to win. The only weakness would be defense. Spain and Argentina can probably do a good job picking their defense apart with their passing and penetration from guys like Ginobili
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:08 AM   #18
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Default Re: How good would Team USA be with only white players?

lol @ steve blake being on the white Team USA, we would get our asses kicked if we only used white players, most of the good white athletes play hockey & football, not many white kids are introduced to basketball. I remember at my school we were offered Football, Baseball, Soccer and Hockey.

The best white athletes in the US don't play basketball, go figure.
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:10 AM   #19
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Default Re: How good would Team USA be with only white players?

Revise my lineup again, I had too many players before and not enough bigs, here's a 12-man lineup

PG: Kirk Hinrich
SG: Mike Miller
SF: Mike Dunleavy
PF: David Lee
C: Brad Miller
Bench: Jeff Foster, Luke Ridinou, Jason Kapono, Luke Walton, Austin Croshere, Kyle Korver, JJ Reddick

I'd put guys like Wally Z and Kevin Love in reserve. Wally is getting old and Love is not too experienced.
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:11 AM   #20
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Naw, that team actually wouldn't be too bad. International ball is more about being a choesive unit. Passing and shooting. In fact these players would be much more benficial on a Team USA then given credit for ... we still overload our current teams with players who are used to being "the man" and are 1 v 1 players who all need to predominately use their dribble or work with the ball in their hands to be effective. Alot of the white players mentioned here put together on a team could compete with anyone in FIBA and be an elite team. But really, what does race have to do with anything? If you're green and you can ball, then lace them up ...
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:14 AM   #21
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Kirk Heinrich

Mike Miller

Dirk Nowitzki

David Lee

Chris Kaman



theyll win a five game series....
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:14 AM   #22
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If you have JJ on there, then you have to add Morrison. Can't stop the 'Stache...
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:20 AM   #23
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Kirk Heinrich

Mike Miller

Dirk Nowitzki

David Lee

Chris Kaman



theyll win a five game series....

Nowitzki and Kaman are German I believe
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:22 AM   #24
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Kaman is a punk ass American who did not get put on the team so he opted to play for Germany. His ethnicity is German, but his nationality is American. Let that trader play somewhere else then ... **** him.
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:41 AM   #25
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Nowitzki and Kaman are German I believe



Turiaf, Deng, Mutombo, Azi, Nenê, Rick Fox, Jamaal Magloire Samuel Dalembert, Dominique Wilkins, Tony Parker, Boris Diaw, Carlos Boozer, Patrick Ewing, Michael Olowokandi, Ben Gordon, are all considered Black... but none of them were born in the United States...

Or do you consider any of them not black? And therefor, would they be ommited if we were to make a "black" team?


So while Nowitzki and Kaman were not born in the U.S. they still are "white" as in the color of skin...

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Old 08-01-2008, 01:43 AM   #26
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from my point of view you have to be having problems with race relations to make a thread like this. lets talk. you claim you're innocently trying to put "one group of people" into a team with no agenda. bull. whether you realize it or not, theres a reason you're doing it.


its about environment. basketball is the "black" sport of this country. white kids are scared to play IMO against black kids because they are taught by society that black people can jump higher, make cooler music, have better style, stronger, have bigger ***** and that size is important so somehow you're inadequate but nobody ever talks about that one do they? thats a mind**** psychologically. thats some freudian ****.

we are kept segregated from each other economically. we speak different dialects. we mistrust each other. we feel akward being the only one in the room full of the other.

there are people who know how to minipulate these feelings. for marketing, for control, for what? these feelings of confusion, hate... sometimes disguised. sometimes pushed out of your mind so you trick yourself into believing, "no, no... i'm not racist." look i'm voting for obama. i have a black friend, (but he talks white but he still counts right?)... or nah man thats not me. well it is you. its society right now. i'm not saying you have to buy into it but being an extroverted member of society you are a part of the racism 99% chance. i don't know man.

but honestly white people if you walked down to the hood right now are you scared of getting robbed because you're a "whiteboy"? i admit i am. or if i do go i'd be more comfortable dressed like a "thug" to fit in with the other white people who "belong" there.

and then threads like this. threads that are ultimately saying, look, black people are better than you at this. whats the motivation? its imbalance. look at when you see white and black players compared. a white guy is always compared to a white guy. like its 2 classes of players. the phrase "great white hope" is thrown around.

but at least im being real about it. the motivations behind this thread and all those threads about race are tribalistic, immature, and IMO outdated. I don't have an Obamaesque empty rhetoric filled solution to race relations. but i think it starts with communication.

and the basketball race related thing I wanna communicate right now is that

a) I think there aren't as many white players is because society tells us basketball is a black sport and black people are better at it
b) I feel you are making this thread as "look at white people they aren't as good as blacks" no matter if you realize it or not
c) we need to recognize the way society is teaching us things about race and race relations. the media pretends to be politically correct in a lot of places but its really not. its really teaching black people they belong in the hood and white people that they aren't as cool.

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Old 08-01-2008, 01:49 AM   #27
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Why do people ask questions like this? Don't try to play it off like" I was just asking for the fun of it" either.

It's not that my eyes can't see the color of fill-in-the-blank player's skin, it's that my brain doesn't care. It's a game of ****ing basketball for gawds sake.

If you really believe that basketball is the time or excuse to explore your little stupid prejudice...your brain is just ****.

Man I have seen and met black folks that can't sing or dance and I have met white people who can. I have seen black athletes do some incredible things in sports, and I have seen people of every stripe of the rainbow do the same.

I refuse to be the loser standing around counting the number of times a people/race do this/don't do that.

If there is one thing I luv about basketball it is the beauty of people of each color and even from multiple Nations, all working together to play the game. If you can't feel that, then you really need to get in touch with your humanity because you are missing something deep inside.

yo chill out dude it obvisouly wasnt racist. Your the 1 that made it about race. fU ck head
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:54 AM   #28
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but at least im being real about it. the motivations behind this thread and all those threads about race are tribalistic, immature, and IMO outdated. I don't have an Obamaesque empty rhetoric filled solution to race relations. but i think it starts with communication.


Actuall truth being told, your the only one that is acting in that manor.

Where did you find in this thread, that it placed one race higher than another?


The concept may well have been simplistic and lacking creativity but at least to the reast of us.. it was still about basketball
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:59 AM   #29
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Turiaf, Deng, Mutombo, Azi, Nenê, Rick Fox, Jamaal Magloire Samuel Dalembert, Dominique Wilkins, Tony Parker, Boris Diaw, Carlos Boozer, Patrick Ewing, Michael Olowokandi, Ben Gordon, are all considered Black... but none of them were born in the United States...

Or do you consider any of them not black? And therefor, would they be ommited if we were to make a "black" team?


So while Nowitzki and Kaman were not born in the U.S. they still are "white" as in the color of skin...

I didn't mention anything about considering them white, I meant they are German and play for Germany so they can't be in the US team.
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yo chill out dude it obvisouly wasnt racist. Your the 1 that made it about race. fU ck head


Damn. You figured me out. I am a big-time racist. KKK is just childs play to me. I really try to make everything about race and then I try to be as mean-spirited as possible. The thread starter didn't even mention race and I just hijacked this thread of peace, love, and happiness to push my agenda.


Yes I am so un-chilled right now. I can't stop myself from going crazy, I am smashing everything I own. I am going to downtown and kill somebody of color tonight. WHEW!!!! I am craaaazzyyyyyyy! When I do my walk-by at "da club" I will yell: "this is for all the white guys in the NBA mother f$#kers!"




Look for me on the news tomorrow...
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