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Old 09-01-2006, 03:16 PM   #46
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I was 95% sure Team USA would win this competition. I hoped my country (France) would make some noise, but once TP got injured, I knew it waw over.
Over the last months, even though I agreed with Applenader's pointson Tem USA, I still thought he was alarmist and just hyterical, as a result of being too worried about what would happen in the WC.
Well, he was more than right all along. I really would like to see anyone defend USA's dominance of the basketball world now. 2002 and 2004, as well as these WC aren't accidents. The state in which basketball is in America should worry you guys more than it does.
Many young players coming up should be chasing a career in track & field instead ofbasketball, but nobody tells them that. There still is the illusion that any spectacular athlete can play ball. Before being tremendous athletes, MJ, Malone, Clyde etc. were tremendous BASKETBALL PLAYERS. Athletism came as a tool. It's no coincidence that these guys could still be efficient even when they were injured or when they got old. They knew the game in and out. Not just 1 on 1 iso's on offense, not just chasing your man for 10 seconds max on defense, they had all the fundamentals.
Today, all kids do is jump, crossover, shoot from deep (and don't even make those shots).

David Stern should make sure he brings back the rules that pushed players to their limits and got them to play the best they could, instead of just being able to dribble a whole team and get free throws after being barely touched; carrying the ball all the time, being allowed to travel on game winning baskets etc.

Bring back the fundamentals, and hungry players. Not just money hungry, but hungry for knowledge of the game and getting better. Hate or love Kobe or Arenas, these 2 guys can be selfish at times (several times), but at least one can see how motivated they are to get better, and unfortunately, the typical up and coming NBA player is more like Darius Miles.

This loss should teach USA Basketball several lessons. Amongst them is also "stop handing young NBA stars everything on a golden plate". To think that players like AI and Arenas almost begged to be part of the team and were turned down just to make sure LBJ, Wade and Melo get theirs ???
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Old 09-01-2006, 03:21 PM   #47
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For some reason, I don't think AppleNader hates to tell us we wrong. Actually, I never really commented too much about Team USA since I don't know much about international ball. But I do know that 3 weeks and isolation play isn't going to win us a championship.
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Old 09-01-2006, 04:04 PM   #48
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For some reason, I don't think AppleNader hates to tell us we wrong. Actually, I never really commented too much about Team USA since I don't know much about international ball. But I do know that 3 weeks and isolation play isn't going to win us a championship.


Actually, I do. Trust me I'd much rather the US dominate and win this tournament and have every single one of my predictions get thrown in the sh&tter.

However, the thing I absolutely can't stand is when people who shall go unnamed right now attack my points when they themselves know jacksh&t about USA and FIBA basketball. Lots of the statements I put in this thread were directed towards those retards who don't know any better.
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Old 09-01-2006, 04:08 PM   #49
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They should name AppleNader as coach, effective immediately.

He'd outcoach Coach K, at least. ;)
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Old 09-01-2006, 04:36 PM   #50
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this team was constructed in the manner it was because the goal is to win in 2008!

thats ridiculous . we have the talent in the US to win NOW. the powers that be just dont get how to assemble a team to win. i wouldnt be surprised if Stern really just wants the up and coming players to be on this squad as a marketing ploy. we didn't take any international players, we still have no shooters, its all iso play, nobody moves.....

the entire team is one on one moves and breakaways. their D that the announcers were falling all over early one amounted to attempting to get steals in the passing lanes vs actually rotating and playing help D on pick and rolls.

then it went to the Melo, Wade and Bron show where each tried to go one on five to no avail.

blech. its like watching the Franchise led Rockettes. horrible.
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The biggest problem is the knowledge of many of the players. Steve Alford needs to be paid to hold a week long mini-camp of off ball movement. Any player that is part of the National Team shows up or he'll be excluded from participation in teh '08 Games.

On a NBA note, imagine LeBron James playing in the NBA with an actual clue about off ball movement. Almost unfair
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another big problem was Team USAs apparent lack of pre game scouting.
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another big problem was Team USAs apparent lack of pre game scouting.

Ironically, the media was basically gushing over the fact that Rudy Tomjanovich was named as the Director in charge of scouting and that "all our problems of underestimating our opponentns like in 2004 would be over."
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